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A very Modest Proposal.
Why modest?
Global warming has begun to make Norway warmer and wetter
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Re: Global warming has begun to make Norway warmer and wetter
#92I'm certainly on the climate change team (if that's what you call it). But are articles like this good or bad? When confronting climate change deniers the standard response is "weather is not climate". Saying it's hot today or cold today isn't an indication of climate change. It's what occurs over hundreds of years but especially the last 150 years. It seems we are sending mixed signals saying that one day or a decad…
From the article
> In some places, the timberline is over 100 meters higher than before.
You give the impression the article is saying “oh it is currently warm in Norway”. It seems to be much more than that.
Re: Global warming has begun to make Norway warmer and wetter
#93What I have found more frustrating than those in denial of climate change lately, is those who deny responsibility. That the real problem is in other countries. India. China. America. Little old X in Europe can't possible be the ones that need to sort it out. Therefore there's no point changing our habits. I feel a little hopeless in these discussions. I have little hope for change. I cannot argue against the fact th…
Oh blame the third world for climate change because they are busy building their economy & uplifting of their poor.
Has the colonists accepted the responsibility for their plundering of once wealthy countries that's called "third world" now ?
Re: Global warming has begun to make Norway warmer and wetter
#94I'm certainly on the climate change team (if that's what you call it). But are articles like this good or bad? When confronting climate change deniers the standard response is "weather is not climate". Saying it's hot today or cold today isn't an indication of climate change. It's what occurs over hundreds of years but especially the last 150 years. It seems we are sending mixed signals saying that one day or a decad…
Climate change deniers mainly deny the human influence on climate, so even if you can convince them the earth is heating up, it's still a "natural process".
Re: Global warming has begun to make Norway warmer and wetter
#95Re: Global warming has begun to make Norway warmer and wetter
#96What I have found more frustrating than those in denial of climate change lately, is those who deny responsibility. That the real problem is in other countries. India. China. America. Little old X in Europe can't possible be the ones that need to sort it out. Therefore there's no point changing our habits. I feel a little hopeless in these discussions. I have little hope for change. I cannot argue against the fact th…
This is so ridiculous. Not only are rich countries the biggest polluters per capita, but they're responsible for most of the total emissions since the industrial revolution: https://www.wri.org/blog/2014/05/history-carbon-dioxide-emis...
Any one country isn't enough to make a difference, but we're all in this together, and The West bears more than its fair share of responsibility. Pointing your finger and India and China just makes you look like a selfish hypocrite.
Re: Global warming has begun to make Norway warmer and wetter
#97I'm certainly on the climate change team (if that's what you call it). But are articles like this good or bad? When confronting climate change deniers the standard response is "weather is not climate". Saying it's hot today or cold today isn't an indication of climate change. It's what occurs over hundreds of years but especially the last 150 years. It seems we are sending mixed signals saying that one day or a decad…
I disagree, I live in Southeast Australia and have never seen so many people accept climate change as real as this past summer. If it takes a slight misunderstanding about weather relating to climate change to get immediate action, isn’t that a good thing?
"If it takes [mistruth] to get [policy change I want], isn't that a good thing?" vs. education and truth? Where does that slippery slope end?
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#98Nice visuals/UX, contributing to a better understanding of changes.
FYI, happened last year: Norway refuses to drill for billions of barrels of oil in Arctic, leaving ‘whole industry surprised and disappointed’. Government made the right choice, but a few (prosperous already) affected by making less money complained: https://www.independent.co.uk/environment/norway-oil-drillin...
Re: Global warming has begun to make Norway warmer and wetter
#99I'm disappointed by the typical Hacker News folks complaining about the presentation format. This isn't the target demographic, and I applaud trying different approaches to convey the seriousness of these issues. The kinds of people who just want a spreadsheet and a PDF report are already bought in on the ideas. While I find the format a bit cinematic for my taste, I can't help but respect their efforts to drive home…
We are a bunch of extremely aggressive, highly intelligent gadflies and that’s the way we like it
Re: Global warming has begun to make Norway warmer and wetter
#100What I have found more frustrating than those in denial of climate change lately, is those who deny responsibility. That the real problem is in other countries. India. China. America. Little old X in Europe can't possible be the ones that need to sort it out. Therefore there's no point changing our habits. I feel a little hopeless in these discussions. I have little hope for change. I cannot argue against the fact th…
One way to approach this perhaps is to look at emissions per capita. Norway, as an example, is a way bigger offender (or at least has been, haven’t check recent data) than China by this metric.
And it _is_ a political problem at this point. You cant really demand change from people around you if you’re not prepared to do the same yourself.