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Global warming has begun to make Norway warmer and wetter

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Re: Global warming has begun to make Norway warmer and wetter

#81
post #62

While economy and consumerism are destroying our planet, we are complaining about the UX of an emergency call.. In other news stories I see participants of Extinction Rebellion being arrested by police as if they were criminals, while temperatures world wide are breaking all records and the ramifications are clearly seen almost anywhere on the planet. It just renders me speechless.

Can you explain to me how yoga and drum circles in the streets of London helps combat climate change?

Re: Global warming has begun to make Norway warmer and wetter

#82
post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, this is HackerNews, started by a technology company accelerator focused largely on web applications, for which UX is a top line discussion point. The point being, the takes here are pretty on-brand.

I believe the hope is the smart technically minded people on HN might have some insight or way to innovate solutions to at least mitigate climate change. Unfortunately, the best we can come up with this thread are UX critiques. I think it just illustrates how daunting of a problem climate change really is.

Both climate change and UX critiques happen in-depth every day on HN there is no shortage of either.

Re: Global warming has begun to make Norway warmer and wetter

#83
post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It also doesn't help when TV weathercasters† show graphics that list what the "normal" temperature is supposed to be for that day. There is no such animal. There is an average temperature for a particular date, but there isn't a single "normal" number. † In America, few TV weathercasters are actual meteorologists anymore. Some stations will claim they are, but often they are not. One way to tell is to look for the AM…

We know the historic average, but also variability, and I'm pretty sure that data just so happens to be a standard example of what is specifically called the "normal distribution". So I don't see what the problem is with charting, say, the 98% confidence interval, calling it normal, and stating that values outside that range are 1-in-50 year events.

Claiming it should be a "normal distribution" (aka a bell curve) is a major assumption based on there is a "correct" temperature that remains fixed over time.

To the best of my knowledge, few places have tracked temperature longer than the last 150 years and beyond that we have estimates and calculations that have variances/tolerances built in. Is 150 data points for a given location enough to KNOW both the "correct temperature" and that it does/doesn't move?

Re: Global warming has begun to make Norway warmer and wetter

#84

I'm disappointed by the typical Hacker News folks complaining about the presentation format. This isn't the target demographic, and I applaud trying different approaches to convey the seriousness of these issues. The kinds of people who just want a spreadsheet and a PDF report are already bought in on the ideas. While I find the format a bit cinematic for my taste, I can't help but respect their efforts to drive home…

Complaining about presentation formats, including the colors or fonts or use of scripts on linked articles, ought to be against the guidelines: it doesn't contribute to discussion about the content of the linked article and devolves into bickering.

Why is the content a more appropriate topic than the format?

This is a tech forum, not a climate news forum.

Re: Global warming has begun to make Norway warmer and wetter

#85

What I have found more frustrating than those in denial of climate change lately, is those who deny responsibility. That the real problem is in other countries. India. China. America. Little old X in Europe can't possible be the ones that need to sort it out. Therefore there's no point changing our habits. I feel a little hopeless in these discussions. I have little hope for change. I cannot argue against the fact th…

I've also found those discussions to be extremely frustrating. Yeah, I understand feeling that as individuals we're not able to make much of a difference, but that's all the more reason we should be advocating for structural changes.

Re: Global warming has begun to make Norway warmer and wetter

#86

What I have found more frustrating than those in denial of climate change lately, is those who deny responsibility. That the real problem is in other countries. India. China. America. Little old X in Europe can't possible be the ones that need to sort it out. Therefore there's no point changing our habits. I feel a little hopeless in these discussions. I have little hope for change. I cannot argue against the fact th…

> Therefore there's no point changing our habits.

This kind of feels to me like mutual assured destruction. Nobody lay down their weapons because of the other party. If you are not changing habits because the source of the problem doesn't lie in your geographical section, you are turning your back to the fact that climate crisis is a human kind crisis. We need to change habits as a whole, so that even when we are not directly helping, we are setting precedent and example.

Edit: the talks are frustrating though, I am not arguing that! But let's not give up. Giving up we are assuring our defeat.

Re: Global warming has begun to make Norway warmer and wetter

#88
post #8

When will people learn that politicizing global warming will divide, not unite people. If human-made global warming exists, then the most immediate solution is a more lethal 2019-ncov. This is not hard to understand.

A very Modest Proposal.

Why modest?
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