Interesting. I have an Acer Swift 1 with passive cooling and just the integrated Intel graphics, and it seems to run a couple of degrees hotter when I've got an external monitor connected. Not so much that it worries or bothers me, I just think it's kind of strange.
MacBook 16-inch Fan Noise (2019)
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That's why I buy gaming laptops for my work needs even though I don't play games. Their heatsinks are generously sized resulting in good thermals and acoustics.
I use a similar trick: I try to find a laptop that comes in both discrete-GPU and integrated-GPU configurations, and both version must share the identical chassis. This way, when I buy the integrated version, I know the chassis has been designed with the heavier airflow of the discrete-GPU version in mind. If I'm lucky, my integrated-GPU config might even use the identical size heat-sinks as the discrete-GPU version.
That's interesting. Any model you can recommend?
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#54Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Apple says "we are listening now, and here is a new cooling design," They also keep at "oh, look how thin it is" even though the vast majority of people stopped caring 5-7 years ago. Make it thicker, but with better cooling, better storage, better GPUs etc. Worse still, they do it across the line. "We painted ourselves into a thermal corner with MacPro" says Apple and keeps releasing iMacs (and iMacs Pro) with seal…
> Make it thicker, but with better cooling, better storage, better GPUs etc. They literally did all of that in 16 inch.
Yes they made it thicker, but as you see, without much gain. They just made it look thicker, with an innuendo that this is for better thermals, while in reality it isn't.
Re: MacBook 16-inch Fan Noise (2019)
#55Been using Mac primarily since 2011 and sad to see everything keep declining with Apple's software and hardware quality. When programming an app and its backend with react native/clojure my 2015 Mac Pro gets way too hot and slow.
Just built a Ryzen 3600 desktop with 32 gigs of RAM for about 1/4th the price as the cheapest 16 inch Macbook. Windows with WSL2 has been extremely good and I'm satisfied with my development environment. Key things were disabling automatic updates via group policy, setup autohotkey to keep all my MacOS keybindings, use X410 to display emacs and using the new windows terminal. Development is super fast, compilation is fast, git is fast, everything just works. Attempted to switch with WSL1 awhile a year ago or so and while it was okay, I wasn't very happy with it.
My mac just sits there now mainly being a coaster until I need to test iOS builds.
Re: MacBook 16-inch Fan Noise (2019)
#56related only by brand...
I upgraded from a 2013 iMac to a 2019 model recently for two reasons, the primary being my 2013 used an Nvidia 780m chipset and Nvidia no longer made compatible drivers and Apple wasn't doing any real updates either. Second I wanted he higher resolution screen.
However, the fan which I rarely had come on in the 2013 is hyper active at times in the 2019 even with similar content. Oddly it is not consistent. Now I did go from i5 to i9 which do run hotter but they are very spiky as in the seem to flare a core or two enough to excite the fan logic.
The GPU while getting warm (Vega 48) will less likely cause the fans to spin up past 2k than a random cpu spike. So either the fan logic is wonky or the processor logic is. While I understand that core balancing is complex it just seems to randomly jump single channels far more often than load across the whole
Re: MacBook 16-inch Fan Noise (2019)
#57What can I say as a person somewhat close to electronics engineering: Look at that single skinny heat pipe, it will get saturated very fast. Second to that, look at those tiny radiators, they are clearly not capable to discharge the full heat flux. I simply don't see any signs of proper thermal engineering there. Apple says "we are listening now, and here is a new cooling design," then it comes out to be even less ad…
I want the ThinkPad T500 cooling system back; the owl-wing shaped fans, the adequately sizes pipes, all that jazz.
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#58Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Apple says "we are listening now, and here is a new cooling design," They also keep at "oh, look how thin it is" even though the vast majority of people stopped caring 5-7 years ago. Make it thicker, but with better cooling, better storage, better GPUs etc. Worse still, they do it across the line. "We painted ourselves into a thermal corner with MacPro" says Apple and keeps releasing iMacs (and iMacs Pro) with seal…
> Make it thicker, but with better cooling, better storage, better GPUs etc. They literally did all of that in 16 inch.
> They literally did all of that in 16 inch.
Well, would be a wonder if they would still be using 2017s i7, wouldn't it? So, accepting natural or following common improvements should be nothing to brag about.
Besides that they obviously still fail with the second point, otherwise this whole issue would not exist.
Re: MacBook 16-inch Fan Noise (2019)
#59I have a MBP 16 with a Philips 48.8” 5120x1440 monitor, running with the lid closed. I have the extra 8GB on the GPU. The only time I’ve noticed fan noise was when I was running Minecraft with Optifine and a very aggressive shader pack. At first I thought the hissing sound was from rain in the game. Apart from that I haven’t really heard anything.
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#60What's disturbing is that Apple seem to be deleting posts: After attempting to be part of the solution; spending a ton of time testing, providing information in the community, communicating with Apple Engineers and Apple Business Team, our most recent post was deleted as "Speculative". We have spent over $300,000 on Apple hardware over the years both business and consumer and now our voice has been muted. How can we…
I was going to ask where that quote was from before realizing that there is a 44-page thread beyond the two highlighted responses.
Yes, and most of that thread is posts full of noise and faulty suggestions that add nothing to the discussion but serve to dilute the original post and the few posts with relevant information. Which is why I seldom bother with discussions.apple.com. It's a cesspit.