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MacBook 16-inch Fan Noise (2019)

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Re: MacBook 16-inch Fan Noise (2019)

#11

Post by dragonsh »

I was planning to buy MacBook 16-inch as I am still on 2014 edition which in my view were one of the best MacBooks.

I simply hate that unnecessary Touch Bar, was hoping Apple will remove it but didn’t. Thought then of getting 16-inch as they have an esc key.

Waiting for this kind of review, I will put on hold purchasing it until get a clarity on fan noise. My current old MacBook fan do make some noise but only under load of games.

Hope Apple can go back to basics and redo the MacBook Pro to make it similar to 2014 with new hardware.

Re: MacBook 16-inch Fan Noise (2019)

#13

Post by tonyedgecombe »

blakesterz wrote: post #9
wodenokoto wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Would it be a pun to call a fan revolutionary?

More and more on the Mac hardware it feels like "revolutionary" now means it "just works" again. The one comment in that thread: "Bottom line, the combination of using the GPU and CPU is pushing the MBP into heat conditions causing the FAN issues and in our case, possibly damage to the GPU."

I think you missed the joke.

Re: MacBook 16-inch Fan Noise (2019)

#14

Post by baybal2 »

What can I say as a person somewhat close to electronics engineering:

Look at that single skinny heat pipe, it will get saturated very fast. Second to that, look at those tiny radiators, they are clearly not capable to discharge the full heat flux.

I simply don't see any signs of proper thermal engineering there.

Apple says "we are listening now, and here is a new cooling design," then it comes out to be even less adequate that the old one. I can't think of anybody else capable of trolling up their customers like that.

If anybody wants to dish out something on an order of $1.5m to do a contract manufacturing run for a properly designed full sized laptop, give me a note. I do have some tricks in mind how to make 40W+ CPUs work in a relatively compact case.

Re: MacBook 16-inch Fan Noise (2019)

#15

Post by nujabe »

What's disturbing is that Apple seem to be deleting posts:

After attempting to be part of the solution; spending a ton of time testing, providing information in the community, communicating with Apple Engineers and Apple Business Team, our most recent post was deleted as "Speculative".

We have spent over $300,000 on Apple hardware over the years both business and consumer and now our voice has been muted. How can we move forward using Apple? Instead of deleting our posts, how about send it to management?

Re: MacBook 16-inch Fan Noise (2019)

#16

Post by jhabdas »

dragonsh wrote: post #11

I was planning to buy MacBook 16-inch as I am still on 2014 edition which in my view were one of the best MacBooks. I simply hate that unnecessary Touch Bar, was hoping Apple will remove it but didn’t. Thought then of getting 16-inch as they have an esc key. Waiting for this kind of review, I will put on hold purchasing it until get a clarity on fan noise. My current old MacBook fan do make some noise but only under…

mid-2014 editions had only one flaw: macOS. Easily remedied.†

† https://habd.as/post/invisible-arch-linux/

Re: MacBook 16-inch Fan Noise (2019)

#17

Post by trollied »

jonplackett wrote: post #3

I really hope they haven't finally replaced the 'revolutionary' keyboard only to throw in a 'revolutionary' new fan system...

I was taking the whole Apple MBP keyboard thing with a pinch of salt, but the keyboard on mine has been degrading significantly over the last few weeks & I'm going to have to take it in for repair. Grr.

Re: MacBook 16-inch Fan Noise (2019)

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Post by joakleaf »

dragonsh wrote: post #11

I was planning to buy MacBook 16-inch as I am still on 2014 edition which in my view were one of the best MacBooks. I simply hate that unnecessary Touch Bar, was hoping Apple will remove it but didn’t. Thought then of getting 16-inch as they have an esc key. Waiting for this kind of review, I will put on hold purchasing it until get a clarity on fan noise. My current old MacBook fan do make some noise but only under…

I moved from 2014 15" (i7) to 16" (i9).

It is an upgrade, but not by much...

The touch bar gets in the way, but I use external keyboardS 90% of the time, so it isn't that big of problem. I would have gladly payed extra for F-keys.

The larger track-pad also gets in my way often.

Fan noise is significant compared to the old model.

USB-C-only is quite annoying. I never missed a port on the 15", whereas now ... well...

I bought it to get a performance boost (compiling/ML-training/etc.). The performance upgrade isn't really that significant.

I recommend waiting a little while longer...

Re: MacBook 16-inch Fan Noise (2019)

#19

Post by antalk »

dharma1 wrote: post #4

The thermal design of Macbook pros just isn't adequate for >4 core high clock speed CPUs, especially with a discrete GPU thrown in the mix too. I had one of those i9 2018 MBPros and it was always super hot. Much happier now with a 13" 4 core MBpro, it runs quite cool and without any fan noise most of the time. Built a separate AMD 3900x PC with an Nvidia GPU for heavy lifting, and can use that remotely with the MBpro…

For what it's worth, this only occurs when connected to an external monitor -- which causes the discrete GPU to overheat, even with no apps running. Using the built-in display (with the discrete GPU on) is fine.

Re: MacBook 16-inch Fan Noise (2019)

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Post by sub7 »

I just installed and set up Ubuntu after a long time. IMO both Windows and Linux have totally caught up to OSX and while their hardware is still marginally better, that gap is on a downward trend as well.

With mobile, I think Android is close on software and far superior on hardware.

I wonder what happens to Apple stock if they don't get a new product line that takes off - cars, TVs etc. Will ApplePay eating PayPal and Stripe offset this downward trend enough?

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