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China Sacrifices a Province to Save the World From Coronavirus

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Re: China Sacrifices a Province to Save the World From Coronavirus

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Post by droithomme »

jdc wrote: post #29
droithomme wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> my own alarm has lessened considerably That that is the case speaks poorly of the WHO as a reliable source of information. Run the numbers. Run a regression on Hubei's spread. I did. That's the two-weeks out future for the virus outside of Hubei (unless the speculation that there was a secretive inoculation program in Hubei that went wrong). Presuming Hubei's population is normal, then this is spreading badly and i…

When disagreeing, please reply to the argument instead of calling names. "That is idiotic; 1 + 1 is 2, not 3" can be shortened to "1 + 1 is 2, not 3." [...] Please don't comment about the voting on comments. It never does any good, and it makes boring reading. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

I hope you enjoy the mass death you are bringing about. I don't enjoy it at all. But philosophically, I respect your right to be a Satanist working hard to bring on the elimination of life.

Re: China Sacrifices a Province to Save the World From Coronavirus

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Post by Joe-Z »

droithomme wrote: post #27
apatters wrote: post #20

Just dropping a link here, anyone who is concerned about the coronavirus and has opinions about it should imo read the daily situation reports from the WHO: https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2... In 5 minutes a day you will have a better informed perspective than what any news sites provide, my own alarm has lessened considerably after reading these.

> my own alarm has lessened considerably That that is the case speaks poorly of the WHO as a reliable source of information. Run the numbers. Run a regression on Hubei's spread. I did. That's the two-weeks out future for the virus outside of Hubei (unless the speculation that there was a secretive inoculation program in Hubei that went wrong). Presuming Hubei's population is normal, then this is spreading badly and i…

For someone who accuses other people of being crazy you sure sound pretty crazy yourself. Maybe back up your claims with numbers instead of throwing around accusations of censorship and propaganda?

Re: China Sacrifices a Province to Save the World From Coronavirus

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Post by chance_state »

bitbrewer wrote: post #28
mucholove wrote: post #17

Sacrifice my ass. Their incompetence led to a province and its people being hung out to dry. They let this problem get out of hand—and now the people there suffer. How? They ignored the doctors who attempted to report the problem on New Year’s day. They (the CCP) take no precautionary measures until their political regime is threatened. So many things done wrong—including maintaining wet market controls up a few year…

Do not agree. Government everywhere makes mistakes under emergencies. Just look at past responses to hurricanes in the US and the current wildfire in Australia. Maybe you could say every government is incompetent. But the fact is that China reported the cases very early to WHO, get the genes mapped very quickly, and decisively locked down Hebei. So I would say so far China has shown competence and resolve, against a…

Did you create your account specifically to parrot CCP propaganda, or is that just a coincidence?

Literally every single comment on your profile is pro-CCP, anti-US.

Re: China Sacrifices a Province to Save the World From Coronavirus

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Post by progman32 »

droithomme wrote: post #27
apatters wrote: post #20

Just dropping a link here, anyone who is concerned about the coronavirus and has opinions about it should imo read the daily situation reports from the WHO: https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2... In 5 minutes a day you will have a better informed perspective than what any news sites provide, my own alarm has lessened considerably after reading these.

> my own alarm has lessened considerably That that is the case speaks poorly of the WHO as a reliable source of information. Run the numbers. Run a regression on Hubei's spread. I did. That's the two-weeks out future for the virus outside of Hubei (unless the speculation that there was a secretive inoculation program in Hubei that went wrong). Presuming Hubei's population is normal, then this is spreading badly and i…

Can you be more specific? If you believe the WHO is wrong, can you provide more details on why you hold this position?

An argument backed by facts will help.

Re: China Sacrifices a Province to Save the World From Coronavirus

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Post by paganel »

droithomme wrote: post #30
bitbrewer wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

WHO clearly does not recommend travel bans. https://www.who.int/news-room/detail/30-01-2020-statement-on... : The Committee does not recommend any travel or trade restriction based on the current information available.

Which is yet another reason why nothing the WHO proclaims can possibly be taken seriously by any sane, rational, or informed person.

Some people still do believe them for what they have to say on this, for whatever reason. When you’ve got your quasi-ally (Russia) closing the 2000 km land border you know something is not right (especially as Russia is not known for caring that much for its citizens), but maybe the WHO officials know better from half a world away. On top of that the actual videos that come out of Wuhan are really heart-breaking.

Re: China Sacrifices a Province to Save the World From Coronavirus

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Post by markdown »

bitbrewer wrote: post #9
markdown wrote: post #6

Meanwhile, https://www.rnz.co.nz/international/pacific-news/408915/chin...

WHO clearly does not recommend travel bans. https://www.who.int/news-room/detail/30-01-2020-statement-on... : The Committee does not recommend any travel or trade restriction based on the current information available.

The point is that China implements severe travel bans within their own country, and yet are reprimanding another country for trying to do something similar.

China also claims to have it under control (in the same reprimand) yet Coronavirus has snuck through their borders numerous times and is now in a dozen countries.

Re: China Sacrifices a Province to Save the World From Coronavirus

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Post by phreeza »

droithomme wrote: post #27
apatters wrote: post #20

Just dropping a link here, anyone who is concerned about the coronavirus and has opinions about it should imo read the daily situation reports from the WHO: https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2... In 5 minutes a day you will have a better informed perspective than what any news sites provide, my own alarm has lessened considerably after reading these.

> my own alarm has lessened considerably That that is the case speaks poorly of the WHO as a reliable source of information. Run the numbers. Run a regression on Hubei's spread. I did. That's the two-weeks out future for the virus outside of Hubei (unless the speculation that there was a secretive inoculation program in Hubei that went wrong). Presuming Hubei's population is normal, then this is spreading badly and i…

Care to share the regression you did? Just eyeballing it on a semilog scale, looks like it is plateauing already.

Re: China Sacrifices a Province to Save the World From Coronavirus

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Post by sliken »

hurrdurr2 wrote: post #36

The amount of virulent (pun intended) hatred of the Chinese government really shows here. Can't say it's not well deserved but you can at least give them some credit for the quarantine.

They new about it for weeks, 5M people left Wuhan, and then they started the quarantine.

You think that should be praised?

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