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If the intelligence community can't publicly deny that perhaps the most prolific child rapist in known history was an asset, we have serious problems. Regardless of standard policy.
Was Epstein an asset? No! Was Dahmer an asset? No! Was Foobar an asset? No comment. It's not in their best interest to publicly deny any assets I don't think.
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Where there's a will, there's a way. Start squeezing her assets. Socialites cannot live without spending hundreds of thousands dollars a year which is difficult to do when one's accounts are frozen.
And risk upsetting Israel?
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#83Records filed by the estate on Friday indicate that Southern Country had $693,157 in assets when Mr. Epstein died on Aug. 10. Then, in mid-December, the estate transferred $15.5 million to Southern Country in two checks. Southern Country sent back $2.6 million, leaving the total it received at $12.9 million. The documents filed by the estate do not give a reason for the transfers. It’s also not clear what Southern Co…
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> lives until it collapses. Usually due to government intervention. Corrupt and bloated businesses also "live until they collapse". I trust in democracy more than markets.
> I trust in democracy more than markets. I don't. People vote against their best interests all the time. The SF housing market is self-inflicted from people voting against new housing, because many of them don't understand the concept of supply and demand. Neither markets nor democracy are perfect, but at least free markets are efficient.
Or they understand supply and demand perfectly well, and figured out that if they legislatively block new development, fixed supply + growing demand = rising home prices = better investment.
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Was Epstein an asset? No! Was Dahmer an asset? No! Was Foobar an asset? No comment. It's not in their best interest to publicly deny any assets I don't think.
This is only a problem if the state has sanctioned mass child rape or necrophilic cannibalism. If the state did sanction those actions, we deserve to know.
We know Epstein was a genuine pedophile. It's not impossible that his actions were his (and Ghislaine's) own. Maybe he was trying to blackmail people for his personal profit, or maybe blackmail wasn't part of it. Maybe he saw it as a way of sharing his "hobby" with people he liked and wanted to get to know more, partly to acquire clout and connections and partly because pedophilia was his passion and something he considered worth doing with others, just like some rich people invite other rich people to go golfing.
There are so many possibilities. Maybe the above is true but he was also an intelligence asset. Maybe he was an asset but the agency/agencies involved weren't aware actual underaged people were involved and dropped him after his 2008 arrest and he then just continued for his own pleasure. Maybe he really was working for one the whole time and the people responsible thought the ends justified the means. Maybe he wasn't and essentially was trying to run his own private intelligence agency, perhaps to sell information to other intelligence agencies, and companies and people who would pay a lot for that dirt.
There's no evidence of anything concrete either way. The prosecutor saying he was told to back off and that he belonged to intelligence is what really sparked all of this, but the meaning of this is still unclear. If the person who told him this wasn't lying, it definitely could mean he was an asset all along, or it could mean that intelligence agencies weren't aware of him until his arrest and realized the potential of the information he might have and promised him leniency if he informed them about every important individual involved, then stopped dealing with him after he was sentenced.
If this is true, this sort of thing isn't uncommon with mass murderers - look at Sammy the Bull. The fact that he kept doing it for a decade when he got out, the unknown sources of his money, and other weird factors certainly could be seen as additional evidence of his actions being sanctioned by some sort of intelligence, but it could mean other things, too.
It's all just speculation. We also honestly don't know if he was murdered or killed himself; or if he killed himself, if he was permitted or encouraged to do so or if it really was just an ordinary suicide (he'd certainly have strong motive to kill himself). Maybe the base rate of incompetence is so high in that prison that this could happen; maybe 1/3 of the other cameras weren't working then, either, and maybe a lot of guards were slacking off and faking data for years.
Most people seem to jump to the most extreme version of all of these possibilities, but we have almost nothing to go on. Maybe we'll learn the answers someday, but who knows.
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There's been some recent reporting by ABC News that Wexner also handed Epstein billions of dollars in stock in L Brands with essentially no strings attached. It is crazy that Wexner is not being investigated. There should have been a no-knock raid on his Albany mansion months ago.
Wexner is a long time, major financier of Republicans at the state and national level. He’ll never see any investigation, outside maybe some investor suits because L Brands stock is tanking.
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Bingo. Based on just what's publicly known about him and Ghislaine Maxwell, it's pretty obvious they're both tied with Israeli intelligence and were collecting blackmail material the Mossad could use to "influence" powerful people. Sexual blackmail is intelligence 101.
Yes, because 90% of HNers are ex-CIA. We should have known this, it's intelligence 101.
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Wexner is a long time, major financier of Republicans at the state and national level. He’ll never see any investigation, outside maybe some investor suits because L Brands stock is tanking.
This is not a partisan issue. This goes well beyond those lines.
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There's been some recent reporting by ABC News that Wexner also handed Epstein billions of dollars in stock in L Brands with essentially no strings attached. It is crazy that Wexner is not being investigated. There should have been a no-knock raid on his Albany mansion months ago.
Wexner is a long time, major financier of Republicans at the state and national level. He’ll never see any investigation, outside maybe some investor suits because L Brands stock is tanking.
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>what is their law enforcements motivation for finding her? If even a fraction of what is alleged about Epstein's schemes is true then whoever has her can obtain the kind of dirt that multi-billion dollar intelligence agencies can only dream of. As another commenters said she is probably in Israel. By virtue of connections and it having a very big stake in not pissing off the US too much she is unlikely to get the $5…
Who's not to say that they weren't already intelligence assets and this whole kompromat operation was actually ran by a nation-state or collection of nation-states?