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Jeffrey Epstein's mystery bank came alive after his death

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Re: Jeffrey Epstein's mystery bank came alive after his death

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Post by QuercusMax »

Relys wrote: post #46
ra5 wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Same here. It's incredibly striking to sort of see the pieces laid out in front of you, really _feel_ that they put together facts, but not have the glue you need to objectively/factually put them all together. To me it feels like the "Israeli operative" scenario seems pretty legit.

Ghislaine Maxwell is the daughter of an alleged Mossad (Israeli Intelligence) operative. Coming from someone who hates conspiracy theories, I think this one isn't too far fetched.

And her father died by apparently "falling overboard off his yacht" (which was named "The Lady Ghislaine" after her!). Not at all suspicious.

Even more fun? You know who owns that yacht now? DJT.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Maxwell#Death

Re: Jeffrey Epstein's mystery bank came alive after his death

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Post by notyourday »

micah94 wrote: post #11
mgolawala wrote: post #8

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I am not normally a conspiracy theorist.. but I have come to suspect the same. One example, despite all that has come up in the this case, and the number of times Ghislaine Maxwell's name has been brought up, there is no word of her whereabouts. Unless we think she is some Jason Bourne level expert that can just make herself disappear, I can think of only three explanations - 1) The law enforcement agencies are choos…

You might have missed this: https://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Ghislaine-Maxwell-accused-...

Where there's a will, there's a way. Start squeezing her assets. Socialites cannot live without spending hundreds of thousands dollars a year which is difficult to do when one's accounts are frozen.

Re: Jeffrey Epstein's mystery bank came alive after his death

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Post by giarc »

QuercusMax wrote: post #51
Relys wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ghislaine Maxwell is the daughter of an alleged Mossad (Israeli Intelligence) operative. Coming from someone who hates conspiracy theories, I think this one isn't too far fetched.

And her father died by apparently "falling overboard off his yacht" (which was named "The Lady Ghislaine" after her!). Not at all suspicious. Even more fun? You know who owns that yacht now? DJT. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Maxwell#Death

Want even more fun? You know who sold Maxwell that yacht? Emad Khashoggi... Jamal Khashoggi's cousin.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emad_Khashoggi

Re: Jeffrey Epstein's mystery bank came alive after his death

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Post by harry8 »

siv- wrote: post #31
marriedWpt wrote: post #22

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The private sector goes out of business. The government lives until it collapses.

> lives until it collapses. Usually due to government intervention. Corrupt and bloated businesses also "live until they collapse". I trust in democracy more than markets.

> I trust in democracy more than markets.

It seems strongly that former requires the latter. Without markets you have a totalitarian state. And black markets. Everyone everywhere wants and needs to trade, for themselves and their families.

The idea of genuine democracy is the loyal opposition. You dochange the government, regularly, without collapsing everything into anarchy.

Endemic corruption will lead to systemic collapse. This makes it worthwhile to vote the best corruption reform candidates regardless of ideology or party.

Democrats have voted Trump, Republicans support Bernie on that basis. It's not completely silly.

Re: Jeffrey Epstein's mystery bank came alive after his death

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Post by jdck1326 »

notyourday wrote: post #53
micah94 wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You might have missed this: https://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Ghislaine-Maxwell-accused-...

Where there's a will, there's a way. Start squeezing her assets. Socialites cannot live without spending hundreds of thousands dollars a year which is difficult to do when one's accounts are frozen.

And risk upsetting Israel?

Re: Jeffrey Epstein's mystery bank came alive after his death

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Post by moralestapia »

QuercusMax wrote: post #51
Relys wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ghislaine Maxwell is the daughter of an alleged Mossad (Israeli Intelligence) operative. Coming from someone who hates conspiracy theories, I think this one isn't too far fetched.

And her father died by apparently "falling overboard off his yacht" (which was named "The Lady Ghislaine" after her!). Not at all suspicious. Even more fun? You know who owns that yacht now? DJT. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Maxwell#Death

>Even more fun? You know who owns that yacht now? DJT.

Any reference on that?

Re: Jeffrey Epstein's mystery bank came alive after his death

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Post by meowface »

Consultant32452 wrote: post #47
searcher1 wrote: post #7

I've reluctantly come to the conclusion that the simplest explanation for investigations being constantly spiked or important evidence repeatedly disappearing during Epstein's life, is that enough high-ranking officials got invited to "parties" and slept with his underage sex slaves (or worse) on video, and were then blackmailed. The fact that even after his life there aren't gobs of collaborators being arrested also…

I've come to the conclusion that he was an intelligence asset. The dog that doesn't bark is the fact that, to my knowledge, there are no on the record statements from the intelligence community which deny he was an asset. What's even more conspicuous is that there is clearly a strong interest by the public. Even if all these "conspiracy theories" are false, you could get a LOT of viewership just going around debunkin…

Intelligence agencies never confirm or deny such things, and how can you debunk something that's not currently possible to prove or disprove?

I think almost no one, including the media, knows what really happened. There are a huge array of different forking possibilities.

Re: Jeffrey Epstein's mystery bank came alive after his death

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Post by pnathan »

searcher1 wrote: post #7

I've reluctantly come to the conclusion that the simplest explanation for investigations being constantly spiked or important evidence repeatedly disappearing during Epstein's life, is that enough high-ranking officials got invited to "parties" and slept with his underage sex slaves (or worse) on video, and were then blackmailed. The fact that even after his life there aren't gobs of collaborators being arrested also…

It seems clear that Epstein was involved in Very Corrupt Things with VIPs. I don't know that I would say more than there's a lot of arse covering at this point, but it doesn't look good for those who visited his palaces - they have a vested interest in covering it up.
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