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Are you sick of being downvoted for having a different opinion?

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Re: Are you sick of being downvoted for having a different opinion?

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I've managed to keep from being incessantly downvoted in my unpopular opinions by providing well documented arguments (logos, with an occasional appeal to ethos of sources), tying to personal credibility or experience (ethos), or providing personal experience developing an empathic response, then tying into into the main argument. (pathos -> logos, or just pathos.) The problem isn't disagreement - it's not developing…

Well thought out arguments don't matter; we are supposed to downvote anything we disagree with: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=117171 (from pg himself).

Nice reference. I'll bet you most people (myself included) now assume that disagreeing with someone is not the point of downvoting them. Personally, I downvote when I think something is inappropriate or doesn't add to the discussion (i.e. "me too" responses). Considering that PG indicates that a downvote is okay for disagreement, but that his post is from about four months ago, I wonder if there even exists a "standard" for downvoting behavior now. I've been visiting the site for awhile but only created an account a few months ago, so I didn't pay too much attention to this before I joined; I haven't been actively participating long enough to know how downvoting behavior has changed over time. Is there a new or updated guideline for downvoting?

Either way, as I've mentioned before, guidelines are just that: you can't force someone to not downvote inappropriately. It's just the nature of this sort of community. I think if people focussed more on not posting things that are out of line that get hella-downvoted instead of worrying about whether they have hit four digits of positive karma, things might be a little more laid back and people wouldn't stress so much. Either way, as long as there is karma, people will bitch about it one way or another ;-)

(Note: not dissing four-digit karma. If you have that much, you've earned it. Just saying that maybe people worry a bit too much about getting positive karma instead of avoiding negative karma.)

Re: Are you sick of being downvoted for having a different opinion?

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Maybe. I'm trying to advertise a solution to the problem. My startup is just one possible implementation of it. Edit: Another solution would be to ask people to explain when they downvote. Please, what's wrong with THIS comment?

You should probably ignore downvotes until at least -2. It could be just one random idiot and it doesn't mean anything.

His first comment is now -19 and his other two were -3 before I came in here. Why all the pile-on downvoting for no real reason, people? Are those comments really worth -19?

Re: Are you sick of being downvoted for having a different opinion?

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post #32
post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You should probably ignore downvotes until at least -2. It could be just one random idiot and it doesn't mean anything.

His first comment is now -19 and his other two were -3 before I came in here. Why all the pile-on downvoting for no real reason, people? Are those comments really worth -19?

It is called karma bombing and it just proves the point.

Compare it to the solution where there's a recommendation system that helps everybody involved: the ones downvoting the posts will form one cluster, the ones upvoting them will be in another. People that like stories like that will see more, people that do not will be spared from them.

Re: Are you sick of being downvoted for having a different opinion?

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post #29

...I'm still working on my startup... Great. That's what we all should be doing. Let us know as soon as you have something to show us. I'm not sure why you're posting this before then.

It is working, sorry for misunderstanding, link in the profile.

Re: Are you sick of being downvoted for having a different opinion?

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I just kinda got used to it. I essentially realized that karma has no real money value anyway, and my self-esteem isn't dependent on the approval of strangers. So I just kinda comment and whatever happens happens. I really don't pay much attention to it.

I have thicker skin than most though.

Re: Are you sick of being downvoted for having a different opinion?

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post #33
post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

His first comment is now -19 and his other two were -3 before I came in here. Why all the pile-on downvoting for no real reason, people? Are those comments really worth -19?

It is called karma bombing and it just proves the point. Compare it to the solution where there's a recommendation system that helps everybody involved: the ones downvoting the posts will form one cluster, the ones upvoting them will be in another. People that like stories like that will see more, people that do not will be spared from them.

Maybe it shouldn't be possible to vote anything below -5.

edit: i posted this in feature requests thread

Re: Are you sick of being downvoted for having a different opinion?

#37

Your Site Has Down Votes, I looked at it, it does.

The downvotes on our site serve totally different purpose. They do not censor - they cluster. They let you find people that share your values. Same with upvotes, also there's no karma to gain or lose.

Re: Are you sick of being downvoted for having a different opinion?

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post #34
post #29

...I'm still working on my startup... Great. That's what we all should be doing. Let us know as soon as you have something to show us. I'm not sure why you're posting this before then.

It is working, sorry for misunderstanding, link in the profile.

Cool. I didn't see the link in the post, so I never thought of checking your profile. Edit your original post (if it's not too late) and add that link. Thanks.

Re: Are you sick of being downvoted for having a different opinion?

#39
post #6

Can you downvote people on this site?

Here you can downvote comments if your karma is above 50. We have sliders for people so you can adjust your preference for their posts.

"sliders"?... I must have missed something.

Re: Are you sick of being downvoted for having a different opinion?

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post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Here you can downvote comments if your karma is above 50. We have sliders for people so you can adjust your preference for their posts.

"sliders"?... I must have missed something.

Sorry, I totally messed up this post, was too late to edit it. The link to the site in question is in my profile. Thanks.
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