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James Lovelock: 'I Would Not Waste My Fortune on Colonizing Mars'

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Re: James Lovelock: 'I Would Not Waste My Fortune on Colonizing Mars'

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post #16

Honestly, the moon is a much better goal.

Moon has nothing useful on it other than H3 -- and it doesn't really make us a multi-planet species in the sense we're protected from cosmic dangers (gamma ray burst, red dwarf etc) as the moon is relatively as vulnearable as the Earth to these.

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Re: James Lovelock: 'I Would Not Waste My Fortune on Colonizing Mars'

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Most of this reads as "this is how it worked for me so it must work like this for everyone".

I understand he "enjoys controversy" but it's hard to take someone seriously who says things like "Oh, politicians should just ignore the protests and keep their minds straight. It will go away. It always does. They’ll find another big issue after a little while and switch to something else.", as if protests have never effected any substantial change.

Or almost worse, that the protests are inconsequential because they are organized and mostly attended by young people.

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post #18
post #6

He may be a smart dude, but this answer is out there: > "DER SPIEGEL: Cancer is a silent killer that might get diagnosed long after the exposure, when it is too late. > Lovelock: I've had 10 cancers in the last few years and it hasn't been very bad. They just appear and grow. If you go to a good oncologist nearby, they'll take it out. It's just unfortunate for people who let it happen and it grows and grows until it'…

I seem to remember a turtleneck guy that got felled by cancer. He was running a fruit company, perhaps there isn't that much money in fruits afterall.

And he is infamous for refusing medical treatment until it was too late. For months he tried alternative treatments, before saying he regretted it.

Re: James Lovelock: 'I Would Not Waste My Fortune on Colonizing Mars'

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This interview makes Lovelock seem very unwise, is that due to him or the Spiegel site? Is it a fair interview/transcript, or is Lovelock really that intellectually uncharismatic?

He sounds like many other elderly folks who are very dismissive and opinionated, for instance putting climate protests down to kids being kids... well you're 100, you definitely don't have skin in the game, how can you comprehend the mind of a 15 year old?

Re: James Lovelock: 'I Would Not Waste My Fortune on Colonizing Mars'

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post #9

> I've had 10 cancers in the last few years and it hasn't been very bad. They just appear and grow. If you go to a good oncologist nearby, they'll take it out. It's just unfortunate for people who let it happen and it grows and grows until it's inoperable. I mean, nowadays, I think middle class and fairly wealthy people don't die of cancer. Is this (roughly) true? I've never heard this before, and I want to believe.

It’s not even remotely true.

Re: James Lovelock: 'I Would Not Waste My Fortune on Colonizing Mars'

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post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I seem to remember a turtleneck guy that got felled by cancer. He was running a fruit company, perhaps there isn't that much money in fruits afterall.

And he is infamous for refusing medical treatment until it was too late. For months he tried alternative treatments, before saying he regretted it.

And it's been almost 10 years since that.

Re: James Lovelock: 'I Would Not Waste My Fortune on Colonizing Mars'

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post #8

Honestly, the moon is a much better goal.

How so? Mars has an atmosphere unlike the moon, it has water in some form and quantity and has approximately the same length of the day as Earth, plus it has gravity much closer to Earth than what the moon has.

Yeah - Mars has great atmosphere with 95% carbon dioxide and 800ppm carbon monoxide. Home from home really however at minus 80 degrees C, global warming doesn't seem to have caught on.

Re: James Lovelock: 'I Would Not Waste My Fortune on Colonizing Mars'

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post #9

> I've had 10 cancers in the last few years and it hasn't been very bad. They just appear and grow. If you go to a good oncologist nearby, they'll take it out. It's just unfortunate for people who let it happen and it grows and grows until it's inoperable. I mean, nowadays, I think middle class and fairly wealthy people don't die of cancer. Is this (roughly) true? I've never heard this before, and I want to believe.

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Re: James Lovelock: 'I Would Not Waste My Fortune on Colonizing Mars'

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post #8

Honestly, the moon is a much better goal.

How so? Mars has an atmosphere unlike the moon, it has water in some form and quantity and has approximately the same length of the day as Earth, plus it has gravity much closer to Earth than what the moon has.

> Mars has an atmosphere

It does, but not much, only 1% the volume of Earth's atmosphere and it is 95% CO2.

Re: James Lovelock: 'I Would Not Waste My Fortune on Colonizing Mars'

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post #9

> I've had 10 cancers in the last few years and it hasn't been very bad. They just appear and grow. If you go to a good oncologist nearby, they'll take it out. It's just unfortunate for people who let it happen and it grows and grows until it's inoperable. I mean, nowadays, I think middle class and fairly wealthy people don't die of cancer. Is this (roughly) true? I've never heard this before, and I want to believe.

Something on the order of getting every mole removed. We're all full of little harmless anomalies which if you're rich and your doctor says something noncommittal, you insist gets removed. Then you follow up with claims about cancer when instead of finding things early you found things that didn't need to be found and exposed yourself to the greater risks associated with any removal procedure.
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