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China to inject $174B of liquidity on Monday as markets reopen

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Re: China to inject $174B of liquidity on Monday as markets reopen

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Post by ksec »

echelon wrote: post #233
baybal2 wrote: post #215

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This might be similar, but I see zero chance of Xi's power taking a hit. For as long as party's institutes are intact, he will be there. Some people began to speculate that Xi wasn't seen for the last 3 days, and sudden activity of "party elders," but I bet this is just an enormous amounts of wishful thinking showing up. Xi's "system" has an expiration date attached, but it's not tomorrow. Following on that Gorbachev…

How stable is the power that Xi has consolidated? How would the party and the public respond if there were leaks about his private life and behavior? I wonder what his skeletons in the closet are... I've also wondered how receptive the Chinese people would be to a series of documentaries or dramas that point out the inequality and unfairness in their system. A film that highlights how the government treats humans and…

>I've also wondered how receptive the Chinese people would be to a series of documentaries or dramas that point out the inequality and unfairness in their system.

1. Not Very receptive, as it will be seen as someone ( Foreign Intervention )trying to attack them. Something which may be hard to comprehend for most people.

2. Vastly underestimated the power of CCP.

I think these sort of thoughts are precisely why the West has failed to understand China for decades.

Re: China to inject $174B of liquidity on Monday as markets reopen

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Post by pertymcpert »

unlinked_dll wrote: post #312
koheripbal wrote: post #276

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2016 was supposed to be the year the bubble crashes. "They" also said their would be a double dip in 2012. I've heard so many doom and gloom predictions in the past - but the one thing they all have in common is a complete lack of specifics. WHAT is going to cause the crash? Which industry has a fundamental imbalance? It's always just some vague notion that "something" isn't right.

>WHAT is going to cause the crash? A black swan, like coronavirus shutting down China. >Which industry has a fundamental imbalance? Consumer debt and financial services. How has our economic output been growing without much inflation or wage growth? How did we sell 17 million vehicles domestically last year when the average American has less than $1k in the bank? How are people buying phones for $600-700 every two ye…

You think a $600 phone every 2 years is a big purchase? People used to buy desktop computers every few years, now they don’t. The mobile phone generates such a great improvement in efficiency (no more getting lost, always available GPS), instant information access (no need to go to a library or spend time finding it in leaflets/books/traditional sources).

$600 every 2 years is an absolute steal for the most economically beneficial piece of personal technology ever created.

Re: China to inject $174B of liquidity on Monday as markets reopen

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Post by klenwell »

mark_l_watson wrote: post #222

My wife asked me at breakfast why the new virus is such a big deal: hundreds dying vs. the 5K to 10K babies and infants who die everyday in the world from dehydration and/or starvation. My response was exponential growth of viruses and mutation into something very deadly. China is taking the outbreak seriously, locking down large and high population regions. I wondered if some of that is PR since after a previous out…

I'd been asking this question myself for the last week. This graph from the NY Times on Friday finally helped me understand:

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/world/asia/china-co...

But I think you're right: a big part of the panic right now seems to be the uncertainty.

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Post by predators372 »

bane wrote: post #20

The Chinese government's response to this situation (after some initial dithering) has been to move swiftly with big moves. I suspect that the force that overcame the initial delays in local response were powerful central government actors who could some in and simply shut cities and entire areas down and not fool around. There appears to be at least one emergency prefab hospital with about 1600 beds under constructi…

Is this like a commercial or someone's actual opinion?

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Post by fqye »

pdonis wrote: post #179
JohnJamesRambo wrote: post #161

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Katrina was when I realized how silly it is to think our government would ever deal effectively with a major disaster and how vulnerable we are.

By "our government" do you just mean the Federal government? Or do you mean all levels of government? The mayor of New Orleans had parking lots full of empty school buses and claimed he had no way to evacuate citizens. The governor of Louisiana whined and wrung her hands instead of doing anything. The Federal response was far from perfect but it was much more effective than the state or local response.

Intesting. Hubei provincial and Wuhan city governments are being bashed hard for covering up and ineffectiveness in handling the crisis and China’s central government is being praised.

Re: China to inject $174B of liquidity on Monday as markets reopen

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Post by [deleted] »

baybal2 wrote: post #246
echelon wrote: post #233

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How stable is the power that Xi has consolidated? How would the party and the public respond if there were leaks about his private life and behavior? I wonder what his skeletons in the closet are... I've also wondered how receptive the Chinese people would be to a series of documentaries or dramas that point out the inequality and unfairness in their system. A film that highlights how the government treats humans and…

> How stable is the power that Xi has consolidated? Very stable. Basically nothing besides something coming from withing the party itself can shake him, and he took down all of those threats to him from within the party. Not even Mao ever managed to cleanse all of his detractors from the party up until his death. Saying this, you should not be confusing that "people are throwing looks into his back," and quiet whispe…

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Post by inferiorhuman »

pmohun wrote: post #284
microcolonel wrote: post #194

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The estimate of likely infected people in China was somewhere between 37k and 130k as of January 25, and it is expected that the number of infected people will double roughly every six days, so assuming there has been no appreciable change to the pattern of spread, we can maybe back-of-the-napkin that somewhere around 75,000-280,000 people are probably infected.

This website provides daily updates on the spread of the virus: https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.h...

Here's the WHO map, which I find a bit more legible.

http://who.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/c88...

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Post by unlinked_dll »

pertymcpert wrote: post #332
unlinked_dll wrote: post #312

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>WHAT is going to cause the crash? A black swan, like coronavirus shutting down China. >Which industry has a fundamental imbalance? Consumer debt and financial services. How has our economic output been growing without much inflation or wage growth? How did we sell 17 million vehicles domestically last year when the average American has less than $1k in the bank? How are people buying phones for $600-700 every two ye…

You think a $600 phone every 2 years is a big purchase? People used to buy desktop computers every few years, now they don’t. The mobile phone generates such a great improvement in efficiency (no more getting lost, always available GPS), instant information access (no need to go to a library or spend time finding it in leaflets/books/traditional sources). $600 every 2 years is an absolute steal for the most economica…

If you don't make enough money to have any savings, any purchase of $600 at any time is "big."

Like yea I can afford it because I make 3x what my friends and family do outside the Bay Area tech bubble, but I don't pretend that I'm not special because throwing a few hundred around doesn't cause me any stress about next month's rent, or credit card, or car payment, or health insurance bill.

Re: China to inject $174B of liquidity on Monday as markets reopen

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Post by 2ion »

bane wrote: post #20

The Chinese government's response to this situation (after some initial dithering) has been to move swiftly with big moves. I suspect that the force that overcame the initial delays in local response were powerful central government actors who could some in and simply shut cities and entire areas down and not fool around. There appears to be at least one emergency prefab hospital with about 1600 beds under constructi…

What people also should realize is that China is likely the only country of this size and might in the world that is even able to pull off a response like this anymore -- perhaps Russia could also be a candidate -- just in terms of handling the population. The same approach would likely fail in Western democracies starting with logistics and then individuals being too much out of line.

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Post by yyhhsj0521 »

adnzzzzZ wrote: post #102
stone-monkey wrote: post #87

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> However, we must remember that the situation would likely not have occurred in the first place if the people speaking out about it early on weren't punished, which wouldn't happen in most western countries as local governments have way less power and way less incentives to make that kind of thing happen. I'm not saying the Chinese government doesn't have problems, nor am I saying free speech is bad, but I have no i…

Anti-vaccination advocacy exists because some kids do get problems from vaccines. I'm not an anti-vaxxer but it's an inherent feature of how vaccines work that a very small percentage of kids will have some serious things happen as a result of being vaccinated. When you have a big population and the Internet, this small percentage of parents will logically come together to cope with their problems. The fact that thos…

Is it also true that some frogs are turned gay by chemtrail as well?
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