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Re: Russia blocks ProtonMail

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Post by ekvilibrist »

Noughmad wrote: post #26
foxx-boxx wrote: post #24

It’s no Russia, but Russian gov’t. Russian population can’t throw this regime out. This government is a lot like Saudis royal family.

Russia, unlike Saudi Arabia, is a democracy. They have elections. If the Russian people wanted to throw the regime out, they would have. Yes, you could make a good argument about propaganda, freedom of the press, and the unfortunate things that happen to leaders of opposition to Putin. But that is all to make the the population doesn't want to throw the regime out, not that it can't.

> Russia, unlike Saudi Arabia, is a democracy. They have elections.

Elections alone aren't the sole definition of a full democracy. Hell, even Iraq under Saddam had elections...

Re: Russia blocks ProtonMail

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Post by Vaslo »

Timpy wrote: post #3

I've been considering leaving Gmail for a privacy focused email service but it seems so difficult to switch. So many accounts and services have my Gmail registered, I don't think I could collect them all. Can anybody using ProtonMail (or any other privacy focused email) recommend it? I feel like choosing an email provider these days is as serious as choosing a bank.

I use ProtonMail and I still use my Gmail. I put the really important stuff like bank info etc with ProtonMail and keep things like Blog Subscription emails with Gmail.

Re: Russia blocks ProtonMail

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Post by Vaslo »

pablooliva wrote: post #22
Timpy wrote: post #3

I've been considering leaving Gmail for a privacy focused email service but it seems so difficult to switch. So many accounts and services have my Gmail registered, I don't think I could collect them all. Can anybody using ProtonMail (or any other privacy focused email) recommend it? I feel like choosing an email provider these days is as serious as choosing a bank.

Can you not forward email from Gmail to ProtonMail? Regardless, use them in tandem and start moving every service over one by one. That is what I did and after a few months, no more Gmail.. and I am very happy that I made the move.

Doesn't gmail though still get to see your emails even with the forward?

Re: Russia blocks ProtonMail

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Post by vcavallo »

techntoke wrote: post #21
mayniac wrote: post #4

Generally speaking, the type of person who uses ProtonMail is also the type of person who will trivially bypass this block.

Not really, most people that use ProtonMail "heard" it was safe but aren't using VPNs daily and would probably struggle to find out how to incorporate it into their daily routine correctly with split tunneling. The smart people host their own email, not rely on someone else.

the smart people live in a plastic oil tank buried under four feet of peat

Re: Russia blocks ProtonMail

#35

Post by alopex_plenus »

Noughmad wrote: post #26
foxx-boxx wrote: post #24

It’s no Russia, but Russian gov’t. Russian population can’t throw this regime out. This government is a lot like Saudis royal family.

Russia, unlike Saudi Arabia, is a democracy. They have elections. If the Russian people wanted to throw the regime out, they would have. Yes, you could make a good argument about propaganda, freedom of the press, and the unfortunate things that happen to leaders of opposition to Putin. But that is all to make the the population doesn't want to throw the regime out, not that it can't.

Iran an NK both have elections. As for Russia, it casually ignores evidence of election fraud (as in literally throwing in stacks of ballots by local officials caught on camera). Also the official vote results in some especially democratic regions show over 99% support for the putin party, would you claim this result to be possible in real elections?

Re: Russia blocks ProtonMail

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Post by vcavallo »

Timpy wrote: post #3

I've been considering leaving Gmail for a privacy focused email service but it seems so difficult to switch. So many accounts and services have my Gmail registered, I don't think I could collect them all. Can anybody using ProtonMail (or any other privacy focused email) recommend it? I feel like choosing an email provider these days is as serious as choosing a bank.

i’m doing it. forward all gmail to proton, reply from proton mail only. unsubscribe or more all junk over. eventually you’ll be fully switched over. takes time.

definitely use a custom domain so you never have to do this again.

Re: Russia blocks ProtonMail

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Post by vcavallo »

clnhlzmn wrote: post #27
Timpy wrote: post #3

I've been considering leaving Gmail for a privacy focused email service but it seems so difficult to switch. So many accounts and services have my Gmail registered, I don't think I could collect them all. Can anybody using ProtonMail (or any other privacy focused email) recommend it? I feel like choosing an email provider these days is as serious as choosing a bank.

I set up auto forwarding from my Gmail to my Protonmail and an auto reply from my Gmail that informs the sender that I have a new address (not including the new address). After a few months of this I had everything switched. I still maintain my Gmail account, but no new mail is going through it.

the autoreply is a great addition! i’ll have to add that to my switching process. thanks.

Re: Russia blocks ProtonMail

#38

Post by vcavallo »

Vaslo wrote: post #33
pablooliva wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you not forward email from Gmail to ProtonMail? Regardless, use them in tandem and start moving every service over one by one. That is what I did and after a few months, no more Gmail.. and I am very happy that I made the move.

Doesn't gmail though still get to see your emails even with the forward?

it’s temporary until you’re fully switched over.

Re: Russia blocks ProtonMail

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Post by AdmiralGinge »

Timpy wrote: post #3

I've been considering leaving Gmail for a privacy focused email service but it seems so difficult to switch. So many accounts and services have my Gmail registered, I don't think I could collect them all. Can anybody using ProtonMail (or any other privacy focused email) recommend it? I feel like choosing an email provider these days is as serious as choosing a bank.

I use it for my primary email, absolutely no complaints about it. The web interface is nice and clean, the app is pretty good too. I migrated from Gmail about five years ago (after an invite from a friend) and I've not looked back.

Re: Russia blocks ProtonMail

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Post by bnt »

Vaslo wrote: post #30

"Roskomnadzor said that ProtonMail had refused to provide Russian authorities with information on the owners of email accounts allegedly associated with fake bomb threats." I know ProtonMail is denying they got requests but hopefully this is a good advertisement for their willingness to protect individuals.

And if those bomb threats proved right and people get killed? Would you still praise Proton for not working with Law enforcement?
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