Russia blocks ProtonMail • Hacker News Board

Re: Russia blocks ProtonMail

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Post by techntoke » Wed, Jan 29, 2020, 2:15 PM UTC

mayniac wrote: post #4

Generally speaking, the type of person who uses ProtonMail is also the type of person who will trivially bypass this block.

Not really, most people that use ProtonMail "heard" it was safe but aren't using VPNs daily and would probably struggle to find out how to incorporate it into their daily routine correctly with split tunneling. The smart people host their own email, not rely on someone else.

Re: Russia blocks ProtonMail

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Post by pablooliva » Wed, Jan 29, 2020, 2:16 PM UTC

Timpy wrote: post #3

I've been considering leaving Gmail for a privacy focused email service but it seems so difficult to switch. So many accounts and services have my Gmail registered, I don't think I could collect them all. Can anybody using ProtonMail (or any other privacy focused email) recommend it? I feel like choosing an email provider these days is as serious as choosing a bank.

Can you not forward email from Gmail to ProtonMail? Regardless, use them in tandem and start moving every service over one by one. That is what I did and after a few months, no more Gmail.. and I am very happy that I made the move.

Re: Russia blocks ProtonMail

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Post by techntoke » Wed, Jan 29, 2020, 2:18 PM UTC

m-p-3 wrote: post #13

There's still Tor, and they have a hidden service as well https://protonirockerxow.onion

Will still not work for email providers who servers are located in Russia.

Re: Russia blocks ProtonMail

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Post by foxx-boxx » Wed, Jan 29, 2020, 2:24 PM UTC

It’s no Russia, but Russian gov’t. Russian population can’t throw this regime out. This government is a lot like Saudis royal family.

Re: Russia blocks ProtonMail

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Post by generalpass » Wed, Jan 29, 2020, 2:24 PM UTC

dariusj18 wrote: post #18

thenewnewguy wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why would they block a service they found a way to compromise?

To draw attention to it and make people think it's the thing to use.

A honeypot for dissidents.

Re: Russia blocks ProtonMail

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Post by Noughmad » Wed, Jan 29, 2020, 2:30 PM UTC

foxx-boxx wrote: post #24

It’s no Russia, but Russian gov’t. Russian population can’t throw this regime out. This government is a lot like Saudis royal family.

Russia, unlike Saudi Arabia, is a democracy. They have elections. If the Russian people wanted to throw the regime out, they would have.

Yes, you could make a good argument about propaganda, freedom of the press, and the unfortunate things that happen to leaders of opposition to Putin. But that is all to make the the population doesn't want to throw the regime out, not that it can't.

Re: Russia blocks ProtonMail

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Post by clnhlzmn » Wed, Jan 29, 2020, 2:32 PM UTC

Timpy wrote: post #3

I've been considering leaving Gmail for a privacy focused email service but it seems so difficult to switch. So many accounts and services have my Gmail registered, I don't think I could collect them all. Can anybody using ProtonMail (or any other privacy focused email) recommend it? I feel like choosing an email provider these days is as serious as choosing a bank.

I set up auto forwarding from my Gmail to my Protonmail and an auto reply from my Gmail that informs the sender that I have a new address (not including the new address). After a few months of this I had everything switched. I still maintain my Gmail account, but no new mail is going through it.

Re: Russia blocks ProtonMail

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Post by ChrisRR » Wed, Jan 29, 2020, 2:37 PM UTC

Noughmad wrote: post #26

foxx-boxx wrote: post #24

It’s no Russia, but Russian gov’t. Russian population can’t throw this regime out. This government is a lot like Saudis royal family.

Russia, unlike Saudi Arabia, is a democracy. They have elections. If the Russian people wanted to throw the regime out, they would have. Yes, you could make a good argument about propaganda, freedom of the press, and the unfortunate things that happen to leaders of opposition to Putin. But that is all to make the the population doesn't want to throw the regime out, not that it can't.

A democracy with things that happen to anyone who runs against Putin and anyone who speaks out against Putin is not a democracy.

Re: Russia blocks ProtonMail

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Post by JulianMorrison » Wed, Jan 29, 2020, 2:39 PM UTC

Noughmad wrote: post #26

foxx-boxx wrote: post #24

It’s no Russia, but Russian gov’t. Russian population can’t throw this regime out. This government is a lot like Saudis royal family.

Russia, unlike Saudi Arabia, is a democracy. They have elections. If the Russian people wanted to throw the regime out, they would have. Yes, you could make a good argument about propaganda, freedom of the press, and the unfortunate things that happen to leaders of opposition to Putin. But that is all to make the the population doesn't want to throw the regime out, not that it can't.

An election where the public isn't free to get a real opposition candidate on the ballot, isn't a real election. Even if the rest of it was remotely free which it is not, it doesn't matter if you're offered Hobson's choice.

Putin is a dictator.

Russia is a dictatorship.

Re: Russia blocks ProtonMail

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Post by Vaslo » Wed, Jan 29, 2020, 2:39 PM UTC

"Roskomnadzor said that ProtonMail had refused to provide Russian authorities with information on the owners of email accounts allegedly associated with fake bomb threats."

I know ProtonMail is denying they got requests but hopefully this is a good advertisement for their willingness to protect individuals.