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> the message can be disturbing to some How would it be disturbing?
For any kind of discussion where there are multiple conflicting ideas, it is likely that an argument based even at least partially on opinion can be disturbing to one or some of the parties.
Why the censorship though? That is pretty nefarious. Palestinians basically live in israel, but have manufactured concrete borders put around them. Inhibiting their freedom of movement in their own country. Not allowing them to go to conferences. So holding a deb community member asking the community if they would be willing to spend some time for the engineers less fortunate, is actually quite awesome of him.
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I suspect the care put into the message was more to ensure that this specific example would look reasonable on its own. When set in the context of the site it's posted on, and the other sites associated with the author (e.g. fsfesicherheit's other postings to HN), it looks more like a pattern of quite targeted harassment. I personally have no skin in this game, but if the message was censored from the list I would gi…
>(e.g. fsfesicherheit's other postings to HN) A single other submission (an article on the Berlin Wall) and two comments relating to said article consitutes a HN posting history? I'm not seeing anti-semitism here but I am seeing censorship.
Surprise someone flagged something mentioning censorship talking about Israel.
Surprise someone flagged something mentioning censorship talking about Israel.
And now it's gone, why flagging, then taking it away? Why no infos? What's happening?
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>Are you serious? There was an article on HN just yesterday about how Turkey censored Wikipedia for two years. And yet it would maximize those who would be able to attend. Both Israelis and Arabs can fly to Turkey pretty easily. >I think a lot of Israeli engineers would just like to be able to host conferences without it turning into a geopolitical debate I'm sure a lot of North Korean and Venezuelan engineers would…
I don’t want to get inti a huge debate here, but you’ve repeatedly talked about apartheid which is a highly inappropriate metaphor that often gets tossed around as if it’s somehow factual. There are Arab citizens of Israel, and they don’t have codified laws that require them to live separately from Jews, nor do you find signs that say “beware of Arabs” and other such hallmarks of apartheid. It’s a disservice to both…
There's a wall with guard towers. I've been there and seen it myself. The existence of some 2nd class Arab citizens that they couldn't ethnically cleanse or expel any other way while the world was watching doesn't change that fact.
>I ask you to recognize that these things are complicated
It was never complicated. Israel was a racist European colonization project just like South Africa. The fact that it screams anti-semitism until it's blue in the face and asks you do to the same does not change that fact.
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And now it's gone, why flagging, then taking it away? Why no infos? What's happening?
This way won't stay on the front page . Someone flags it and when time passes mods unflag it but it stays out of the front page , it reaches to less people. Perfect manipulation. Edit: I don't mean HN mods manipulation, just someone who doesn't want this info to reach a wider audience
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>Are you serious? There was an article on HN just yesterday about how Turkey censored Wikipedia for two years. And yet it would maximize those who would be able to attend. Both Israelis and Arabs can fly to Turkey pretty easily. >I think a lot of Israeli engineers would just like to be able to host conferences without it turning into a geopolitical debate I'm sure a lot of North Korean and Venezuelan engineers would…
I don’t want to get inti a huge debate here, but you’ve repeatedly talked about apartheid which is a highly inappropriate metaphor that often gets tossed around as if it’s somehow factual. There are Arab citizens of Israel, and they don’t have codified laws that require them to live separately from Jews, nor do you find signs that say “beware of Arabs” and other such hallmarks of apartheid. It’s a disservice to both…
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