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Second Travel-Related Case of 2019 Novel Coronavirus Detected in United States

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Re: Second Travel-Related Case of 2019 Novel Coronavirus Detected in United States

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So is the entire biology community turning to face this or is that not a thing? Because it should be.

Encountering the problem that a new disease is threatening a sizeable portion of the world population?

Have every biologist looking at solving it. We have the technology. This requires a modern solution.

Re: Second Travel-Related Case of 2019 Novel Coronavirus Detected in United States

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post #51

So is the entire biology community turning to face this or is that not a thing? Because it should be. Encountering the problem that a new disease is threatening a sizeable portion of the world population? Have every biologist looking at solving it. We have the technology. This requires a modern solution.

Most biologists are not virologists. Besides, HIV, Hep. C, and even the normal flus kill far more people, and threaten more of the world's population.

Re: Second Travel-Related Case of 2019 Novel Coronavirus Detected in United States

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Can't we just stop that traveling nightmare? Now it's not only going to destroy our climate, but also bringing the Zombie Apocalypse.

Travelling is vital for bringing poor people out of generational poverty. Without it, they'll be stuck in their economically depressed places of birth and the whole rest of the world will also be disadvantaged by not having their labor used productively. That could easily be worse than climate change and disease.

Re: Second Travel-Related Case of 2019 Novel Coronavirus Detected in United States

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post #30

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Human breathing produces about 2.5 billion tons of CO2 per year. Aviation is just under 1 billion tons per year. Aviation is one of the great wonders of the modern world. The carbon it produces is essentially inconsequential. Compared to the wealth, knowledge, peace, and prosperity that international travel directly supports, calls to curtail plane travel in order to reduce CO2 IMO are seriously misguided.

The tons produced by aviation are produced in higher concentration in air, and produced nearer to the atmosphere at high altitude, making them more dangerous than the tons produced by human breathing. You can't just compare the total.

Wait, what? It all ends up dispersed the same way, doesn't it?

Re: Second Travel-Related Case of 2019 Novel Coronavirus Detected in United States

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Can't we just stop that traveling nightmare? Now it's not only going to destroy our climate, but also bringing the Zombie Apocalypse.

> The global aviation industry produces around 2% of all human-induced carbon dioxide (CO2) emissions. Aviation is responsible for 12% of CO2 emissions from all transports sources, compared to 74% from road transport. First result on Google...

Aviation has a relatively small global impact because almost nobody can afford to fly. For a typical person in a rich country, it is really easy to double your climate impact by taking a long distance flight per year, for example from Europe to SF.

Re: Second Travel-Related Case of 2019 Novel Coronavirus Detected in United States

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The bigger problem with aviation is there's no known way to decarbonize it within the foreseeable future. Hopefully most people will be driving electric cars within the next few decades, but with airplanes that won't be possible absent a miraculous breakthrough.

The actual process already exists in electrofuels. [0] . If one has enough hear/electricity, they could generate fuel directly usable in existing jet engines with captured CO2, making overall process CO2-neutral [0] https://karmaimpact.com/jet-engine-makers-cast-an-eye-on-nuc...

That is an important step, but unfortunately emissions at cruise altitude have a much higher impact than the CO2 at ground level you produce your fuel from.

Re: Second Travel-Related Case of 2019 Novel Coronavirus Detected in United States

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> The global aviation industry produces around 2% of all human-induced carbon dioxide (CO2) emissions. Aviation is responsible for 12% of CO2 emissions from all transports sources, compared to 74% from road transport. First result on Google...

CO2 is plant food. All organic species are made out of substantial amounts of carbon. The mild warming has not killed anyone and no, droughts are not more common than they were 100 years ago. Only 11,000 people died from natural disasters and weather related phenomenon last year, down from over 1,000,000 per year, 100 years ago.

We're at less than 1K of warming today, but our emissions put us on a 3K+ path.

Re: Second Travel-Related Case of 2019 Novel Coronavirus Detected in United States

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post #25

Hmm I wonder what hospital the patient is at. According to the email sent to the uchicago community from the provost, she's not at uchicago medical. I would guess northwestern or rush.

Honestly, most hospitals in the Chicago area with an ICU can handle this.

The problem is that you show up with minimal symptoms like someone who has a cold, to an ER where people have serious wounds and problems. You get triaged and end up sitting in the waiting room for hours, infecting potentially tens of other people, who may have weakened immune systems, etc. and it goes on to spread around the hospital.

What can the hospital even do to help you with this?

Re: Second Travel-Related Case of 2019 Novel Coronavirus Detected in United States

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post #36

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Honestly, most hospitals in the Chicago area with an ICU can handle this.

The problem is that you show up with minimal symptoms like someone who has a cold, to an ER where people have serious wounds and problems. You get triaged and end up sitting in the waiting room for hours, infecting potentially tens of other people, who may have weakened immune systems, etc. and it goes on to spread around the hospital. What can the hospital even do to help you with this?

If you have travelled to the affected areas and have respiratory symptoms you DON'T just go to hospital. You call ahead and then do what you are told.
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