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In India What We Are Seeing Is the Symptoms of Fascism: Noam Chomsky

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Here's a recent anarchist podcast on the subject. I note the political orientation because clearly that impacts the interpretation of the events, but it was an interesting listen, I thought: https://itsgoingdown.org/an-anti-colonial-anarchist-analysis...

Antifa?

Ok

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post #74

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You can substitute India for America and your points stand. I think there's lots of blame to go on companies like Cambridge analytica. That tech is literally a weapon of mass destruction.

You think the US media supports the US government for everything? Have you been reading the news the past 3 years? It seems to me to be just the opposite, where a majority of the voices in the media are against whatever the government(ie Trump) does. Heck, the few times when segments of the media agree with the government, it comes couched in language like "I hate Trump as much as you, but this time he might be onto…

I think media widely supports the middle grounds that both Republicans and democrats occupy:

Drops lots of bombs on civilians in the middle east.

Make a ton of money for shareholders from healthcare.

Ignore, or pay only lip service to, the crimes against humanity of corrupt regimes like Israel, Saudi Arabia, China.

Wholeheartedly support the MIC.

For profit prisons.

Housing cost crisis.

Failing infrastructure.

Small stories get through here and there. But no media companies are giving the ruling class a hard time about these things. Though They're happy to spend hours every day shitting on trump. Might that just be a distraction from these dire issues we can track by the coffins behind them

Re: In India What We Are Seeing Is the Symptoms of Fascism: Noam Chomsky

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Can you give examples of being muzzled?

Internet in Kashmir has been down for the longest period ever in a democracy, 172 days and counting [0]. Several cities in UP, Karnataka also faced Internet shut downs during recent protests [1]. [0] https://www.dw.com/en/indian-court-kashmir-indefinite-intern... [1] https://www.medianama.com/2019/12/223-internet-shutdown-up-k...

That's not media companies per say across India, that's one region internet has been down

Re: In India What We Are Seeing Is the Symptoms of Fascism: Noam Chomsky

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post #11

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Can you give examples of being muzzled?

One example is looking at the coverage The Hindu gave the BJP, RSS, and Modi before he came power and after. Before they were critical of BJP when it warranted, but since they came into power the coverage has been fawning. This sort of comparision can be made across the spectrum of the news media. They are smarter than outright jailing journalists.

That's hardly muzzling, is there evidence of threats? Even Blair and the sun struck a deal in his time

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That is unfair. Republic and India tv appears to be pro government where as NDTV and other appears to be anti-BJP channels.

Check out the analysis of 200 prime-time debates done by peeing human. Republic, India TV, Zee News, ABP News, Aaj Tak, Times Now, Sudarshan News and countless regional channels are pro-govt. NDTV is the last channel standing.

Not true, wire, scroll and various others are anti gov in india

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Site seems dead. India is home to many minorities, infact the second or third largest Muslim population so it could have not been that without being tolerant to them. Meanwhile Sikhs and hindus are fleeing pakistan. Radesh Singh Tony, the serving president of Khyber Pakhtunkhwa’s Pakistan Minorities’ Alliance, has been reportedly forced to leave his city in Pakistan https://twitter.com/aoepoeRadesh/status/12202384268…

I see this same kind of response quite often when people question the government and its policies and laws. Instead of addressing the questions and concerns — the government, all the ministers and party members, and its supporters — they deflect it and switch to any topic where Pakistan or some “outsider” is questioned or condemned. Until they have the honesty to look people in the eye and address the questions direc…

You should read Imran khan's Twitter feed

Re: In India What We Are Seeing Is the Symptoms of Fascism: Noam Chomsky

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post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One example is looking at the coverage The Hindu gave the BJP, RSS, and Modi before he came power and after. Before they were critical of BJP when it warranted, but since they came into power the coverage has been fawning. This sort of comparision can be made across the spectrum of the news media. They are smarter than outright jailing journalists.

That's hardly muzzling, is there evidence of threats? Even Blair and the sun struck a deal in his time

And that was despicable. Here the entire media spectrum has hardly complained about the fact that the sitting PM, a man FAMOUS for lambasting his predecessor as a mute, has never had a single non-staged media appearance.

IIRC the ONE time Modi did have a question session without being in control, it was a disaster.

And of this fact, there is not the slightest self awareness or questioning from the reporters or heads of news channels.

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post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Check out the analysis of 200 prime-time debates done by peeing human. Republic, India TV, Zee News, ABP News, Aaj Tak, Times Now, Sudarshan News and countless regional channels are pro-govt. NDTV is the last channel standing.

Not true, wire, scroll and various others are anti gov in india

And none of those are media channels, and are extremely small when it comes to circulation.

Essentially if you even know of them, you are not part of the mainstream audience.

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I actively read r/india and there hasn't been a single day for the past two months now that horrendous reports of Police rioting, looting, and killing civilians (predominantly Muslims) come up but is never reported by the main-stream media. There have been numerous cases where the ruling political party has mobilised its pro-violence groups with a free-reign to do as they please. Never has a public personality been i…

r/india Mods insta-ban any pro-BJP/pro-India/pro-conservative commenters. Now, THAT is fascism. Check out r/indiaspeaks where dissenting opinions are not banned.

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Re: In India What We Are Seeing Is the Symptoms of Fascism: Noam Chomsky

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> Karthik: Right. Maybe you can give some other examples in the world. But he was celebrated when he was administering the occupation of Kashmir. But the moment he criticized the BJPs occupation of Kashmir, the moment he criticized it as reducing Kashmir to a “vassal state”, he’s been in prison. > NC: In prison? > Karthik: Yes, in prison, without charges. This news article ( https://m.economictimes.com/news/politics-…

Chidambaram and his entire family are a bunch of amoral kleptocrats. He laid the roots of the current Indian security state before Modi was elected. He is now being prosecuted for arm twisting and even blackmailing corporates into giving him money, shares etc. If there were any justice in this world, that man would die in a jail cell along with his son. Now your comment is implying that he is some persecuted liberal…

Well, the current govt introduced black box, unlimited size, electoral bonds.

So pretty much anyone can spend billions to buy a bond, and then have it anonymously sent to their party of choice.

The party which has been spending the past several years building a rock solid link to corporate India is the BJP.

They're earnings the last year was greater than the other top 3 parties combined, if not top 4. Think it was nearly 400% growth.

For Chidambaram and his ilk, it seems his greatest fault was not thinking big enough.

I do agree that they are no saints. Its just the scale at which the BJP functions is so many step function increments higher, that its laughable to compare the two.

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