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ADHD, a Lifelong Struggle (2018)

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Re: ADHD, a Lifelong Struggle (2018)

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Post by pepper_sauce »

timwaagh wrote: post #400

why did you settle on adhd? adhd people are typically overactive. It means Attention Defecit Hyperactivity. I mean, it is literally about being 'hyperactive'. Like my friend. He's like always walking super fast and very extraverted. He does stuff every hour of the day and never gets tired. I try to keep up but really he has to wait on me. He did have trouble with school, but that's because he's always running off som…

Your comment is inaccurate in the extreme. You don't understand the basics of the diagnosis, so please don't attempt to apply them across the internet.

Re: ADHD, a Lifelong Struggle (2018)

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Post by kls »

sys32768 wrote: post #204
kls wrote: post #156

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Can second this, I started on Adderall but it has severe side effects for me. I read up on it and due to the Left handed amphetamines in the formula it causes more parasympathetic nervousness system stimulation as opposed to central nervousness system stimulation which is what the dextro-amphetamine target. You may want to try Dexedrin which is only dextro-amphetamine or Desoxyn which is methamphetamine. In my case a…

Almost embarrassed to admit that I've never heard of Desoxyn but am very intrigued. It was never mentioned to me when I was getting meds, nor when my son was. I live in "meth country" unfortunately so getting a prescription may be a challenge, but at least I have the paperwork.

Most people have not heard of it, my Doc had never heard of it. It is old (in used since the 1940's IIRC) and rarely used nowadays, due to the fact that there is no marketing budget around it. As for getting a script it should not be that hard the dose is so low that a meth addict would have to take a quarter of the bottle to achieve the same effect as smoking street meth. Desoxyn is a salt so it is not smoke-able and smoking is the way that Crystal Meth achieves such an intense high.

Re: ADHD, a Lifelong Struggle (2018)

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Post by chownie »

viklove wrote: post #97
vslira wrote: post #2

About getting treatment: it's extremely irritating that some people judge using Ritalin is somehow morally wrong. Yes, I get that "lifestyle changes" could help, but I don't want to change my lifestyle. Imagine if there was a pill to reduce risk of cardiac arrest, with some increased risk of something relatively minor. Can you imagine the uproar if cardiologists denied prescribing the pill, instead forcing people to…

A pill that decreases the risk of cardiac arrest is very different than a pill that is psychoactive. Many people just can't relate to taking a drug that quite literally changes your behavior on a day-to-day basis, even if it has positive effects on your life. This is something I myself have struggled with. I suffer from anxiety but I can't bring myself to take medication because I like the person I am and I don't wan…

A very popular medication (propranolol) diagnosed for blood pressure control also causes your heartbeat to slow. It's commonly prescribed as a first line approach to acute anxiety, if you take them they slow your heart rate and can cease panic symptoms spiralling.

I cannot think of a medication that doesn't in some way affect your psychological profile, because if you're sick then you'll behave differently.

I think it's a bit of a trap to believe that you are your authentic self only by denying yourself medication, I consider myself from 5 years ago a different person let alone pre-medication. Is it that valuable that you struggle and live unhappy for the limited years you have available?

Re: ADHD, a Lifelong Struggle (2018)

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Post by CathedralBorrow »

DudeIsJammin wrote: post #324
eq_sd_ wrote: post #319

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ADHD (especially untreated) and substance abuse/addiction is pretty common

Yeah, I agree. But also it's curious that so many people feel like they have it. Makes me wonder if in addition to people that were born with ADHD, these sites like youtube/reddit and video games can create ADHD symptoms over time as your brain adjusts to constant dopamine. Kind of like how constant sugar can spike insulin and with weight gain over time can creates insulin resistance/diabetes. It's like type 1 vs typ…

> But also it's curious that so many people feel like they have it.

My hypothesis: ADHD is defined as X out of Y listed symptoms, almost all of which people experience in some way at some points in their lives. The difference is between "I sometimes have problems with some of these things" vs. "I have significant problems with many of these to the point where it is a big and constant problem in my daily life and causes me great pain".

So people who sometimes have trouble focusing see that it's on the ADHD list and take up this soft position of "Maybe I have ADHD" or jokingly talk about probably having a little ADHD or something like that.

It's the same with OCD. How many people have you seen on Reddit confess to having OCD or OCD-lite or "probably OCD" etc.? A lot more than the official diagnosis statistics right.

I don't think it's because Reddit creates OCD symptoms though.

Re: ADHD, a Lifelong Struggle (2018)

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Post by nikofeyn »

saulrh wrote: post #333
matheusmoreira wrote: post #67

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> Unless it happens to magically coincide with their hyper-focus topic of the moment! It's funny. People with ADHD suffer from attention deficit but at the same time they display hyperattention when they encounter a subject they like. I've experienced it as well: once I start programming I have no problem doing it for 12 hours straight. I've found this trait in many ADHD patients. There's usually something that reall…

Attention Deficit isn't an inability to focus, it's an inability to exert executive control over focus. When there's nothing interesting going on this manifests as wandering attention. When there's something interesting going on this manifests as a crippling inability to process background events like appointments and bedtime.

the symptoms of anxiety and adhd can be very similar.

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Post by username90 »

nikofeyn wrote: post #415
saulrh wrote: post #333

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Attention Deficit isn't an inability to focus, it's an inability to exert executive control over focus. When there's nothing interesting going on this manifests as wandering attention. When there's something interesting going on this manifests as a crippling inability to process background events like appointments and bedtime.

the symptoms of anxiety and adhd can be very similar.

> i performed well above average, including the estimated iq

This has nothing to do with ADHD.

> i would often under perform on the easier parts and over perform on the harder parts

It is very common that people with ADHD perform better on harder things and will have a problem focusing on simpler (and thus boring) problems.

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Post by tartoran »

scns wrote: post #377
tartoran wrote: post #259

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I've taken stimulants, both Adderall and Ritalin and I can't stand the way they makes me feel. I don't have a very severe problem though but I do struggle sometimes with procrastination.

Maybe Bupropion works better for you

Tried it, makes me antsy. What works to some extent is meditation and phisical exercise

Re: ADHD, a Lifelong Struggle (2018)

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Post by Fnoord »

ExtraServings wrote: post #200
vonseel wrote: post #47

I’m 31 and have ADHD (diagnosed in my teens) and I’m pretty sure NOBODY with ADHD is going to have the wherewithal to read this entire article! Unless it happens to magically coincide with their hyper-focus topic of the moment! In all seriousness, I skimmed parts of the article and kept scrolling and it just kept going and going and going... like the Energizer bunny. I guess the author found a doctor to prescribe sti…

So... TL;ADHD I'll admit, I skimmed it. But I bookmarked it!

> But I bookmarked it!

How many bookmarks do you have left to read?

Re: ADHD, a Lifelong Struggle (2018)

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Post by tartoran »

klipklop wrote: post #264
tartoran wrote: post #259

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I've taken stimulants, both Adderall and Ritalin and I can't stand the way they makes me feel. I don't have a very severe problem though but I do struggle sometimes with procrastination.

Not a doctor but sometimes ADHD-like symptoms can be other things like being bipolar. There are a lot of non-stimulant and non-drug options to explore.

No, certainly I am not bipolar. It’s the nowadays distractions that get at me..

Re: ADHD, a Lifelong Struggle (2018)

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Post by nikofeyn »

username90 wrote: post #416
nikofeyn wrote: post #415

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the symptoms of anxiety and adhd can be very similar.

> i performed well above average, including the estimated iq This has nothing to do with ADHD. > i would often under perform on the easier parts and over perform on the harder parts It is very common that people with ADHD perform better on harder things and will have a problem focusing on simpler (and thus boring) problems.

> This has nothing to do with ADHD.

it literally does have to do with it because it was part of the results of being tested for adhd. i had mentioned the iq thing because i meant to elaborate. it was explained to me that the testing is designed to be independent of iq. however, i am a little suspicious of that fact.

when i say performed well above average i meant that i fell statistically well away from results that point to adhd.

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