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China building 1k-bed hospital over the weekend to treat coronavirus

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Re: China building 1k-bed hospital over the weekend to treat coronavirus

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Post by BiasRegularizer »

oefrha wrote: post #49
BiasRegularizer wrote: post #46

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Yes, scalpers swoop them up in all online stores. They are even sold out on Amazon US, Canada, UK and DE. I was told only the ones with a N95 rating can be effective against this virus. https://www.amazon.com/3M-Particulate-Respirator-8210-Pack/d...

Hmm, but it is in stock on Amazon US right now? I also went to tmall.com, Alibaba’s Chinese online marketplace, and it appears they are in stock too: https://list.tmall.com/search_product.htm?q=%BF%DA%D5%D6n95&...

Apparently (or so I was told) that the masks with ventilation holes are not nearly as effective. Hence my original link is one without a breathable hole. If you check Amazon again, all the hole-less N95 masks are all sold out.

Re: China building 1k-bed hospital over the weekend to treat coronavirus

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Post by oefrha »

BiasRegularizer wrote: post #51
oefrha wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hmm, but it is in stock on Amazon US right now? I also went to tmall.com, Alibaba’s Chinese online marketplace, and it appears they are in stock too: https://list.tmall.com/search_product.htm?q=%BF%DA%D5%D6n95&...

Apparently (or so I was told) that the masks with ventilation holes are not nearly as effective. Hence my original link is one without a breathable hole. If you check Amazon again, all the hole-less N95 masks are all sold out.

Your original link does say “in stock” at least for me. “Usually ships within 4 to 5 days”, but this isn’t a Prime/FBA product so it’s not clear if that’s just business as usual.

Edit: What the hell with downvotes on a stated fact?

Re: China building 1k-bed hospital over the weekend to treat coronavirus

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Post by loceng »

mytailorisrich wrote: post #42
loceng wrote: post #24

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Could the delay, in part, be there are more checks and balances that are thoroughly checked? Likewise the populations and level of development are at very different levels not only with population size to compare but also with the amount of workers in different positions there will be in China compared to in the US and Canada for development related work. I don't disagree that there's likely an overabundance of think…

There is a widespread tendency to do things quickly in China and it's not (only) because of absence of checks and balances. Compared to the UK you notice that when you go to the bank: Clerks work fast, the supermarket: Cashier will scan items faster than you can put them into your bags, local MacDonald's: Your food is ready fast. It works the other way round: Chinese who visit the UK often comment that everything is…

It's in part because you have way more people so the competition is higher. You're get your job but you have to be extremely efficient, as efficient as humanly possible, or you're going to be replaced - and if not by a person, eventually by automation.

I've been to China once, traveling from HK with to a massive highly dense multi-floor shopping mall, and then went to a 20+ story hotel fully converted into a massive massage/spa. For two people: 45 minute foot massage coming with some fruit and a drink, followed by an hour long full body massage, including tip, cost $36 CAD. Both environments were really incredible to experience, very opposite to how spacious our malls our, and how factory line feeling the massage hotel was in comparison. I'm still undecided which model is better - obviously though if both models are viable in an ecosystem then unless there are controls in place for quality and space requirements, then the lower price will win out competitive price wise, and cause strain on the other model's viability.

Re: China building 1k-bed hospital over the weekend to treat coronavirus

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Post by BiasRegularizer »

oefrha wrote: post #52
BiasRegularizer wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apparently (or so I was told) that the masks with ventilation holes are not nearly as effective. Hence my original link is one without a breathable hole. If you check Amazon again, all the hole-less N95 masks are all sold out.

Your original link does say “in stock” at least for me. “Usually ships within 4 to 5 days”, but this isn’t a Prime/FBA product so it’s not clear if that’s just business as usual. Edit: What the hell with downvotes on a stated fact?

Interesting. I am not seeing any availability here in Sweden. Perhaps all the international shipping options are gone. Since I am not in the US, I'd have to order it to ship directly to China.

Re: China building 1k-bed hospital over the weekend to treat coronavirus

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Post by tosh »

BiasRegularizer wrote: post #46
throwaway122378 wrote: post #41

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Those masks are manufactured in China and are not available? Something doesn’t add up

Yes, scalpers swoop them up in all online stores. They are even sold out on Amazon US, Canada, UK and DE. I was told only the ones with a N95 rating can be effective against this virus. https://www.amazon.com/3M-Particulate-Respirator-8210-Pack/d...

surgical masks might be more effective (usability related)

https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/health/public-should-...

Re: China building 1k-bed hospital over the weekend to treat coronavirus

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Post by _iyig »

hatenberg wrote: post #50
FatalLogic wrote: post #33

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>Can you imagine something like this happening in America? A new, dangerous respiratory virus mutating in the overcrowded and unhygienic environment of a poorly-managed city market, and then spreading almost unchecked for six weeks, amidst continual denials of its serious nature? No, probably not.

No probably not... crammed homeless in city parks giving each other Hep, city streets disinfected from feces, leprosy being endemic in parts of the homeless population. People unable to afford life-saving medication or unable to take time off work due to lack of medical leave, choosing to carry their viruses to work. People also never eat Armadillo meet and come down with the plague. Large parts of the population dis…

While the plight of the homeless in the U.S. is great discussion fodder, I don't see what relevance it has to meat market hygiene in China, or the state's role in publishing accurate public health information.

Re: China building 1k-bed hospital over the weekend to treat coronavirus

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Post by jialutu »

BiasRegularizer wrote: post #39

I was born and raised in Wuhan. My father and a few friends are still in Wuhan, one of the friend is a nurse. Here's what they told me: * The hospitals in Wuhan are at absolute maximum capacity. they are lumping any fever cases (e.g. flu) patients with potential coronavirus patients in the same room. * People with mild symptoms are sent home due to capacity, they are instructed to be quarantined at home unless sympto…

If you are interested, there is a crowdfund in the UK trying to raise money to provide surgical masks to doctor and nurses in Wuhan. Here is the link: https://www.justgiving.com/crowdfunding/standbywuhan

Re: China building 1k-bed hospital over the weekend to treat coronavirus

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Post by hatenberg »

_iyig wrote: post #56
hatenberg wrote: post #50

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No probably not... crammed homeless in city parks giving each other Hep, city streets disinfected from feces, leprosy being endemic in parts of the homeless population. People unable to afford life-saving medication or unable to take time off work due to lack of medical leave, choosing to carry their viruses to work. People also never eat Armadillo meet and come down with the plague. Large parts of the population dis…

While the plight of the homeless in the U.S. is great discussion fodder, I don't see what relevance it has to meat market hygiene in China, or the state's role in publishing accurate public health information.

Yes, thank god we have no head of state questioning vaccines and no federal agencies dismantling health related regulations. thank god

No, health epidemics could never thrive in our amazing country because we have safe meat markets

Re: China building 1k-bed hospital over the weekend to treat coronavirus

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Post by solarhoma »

cddotdotslash wrote: post #37
FatalLogic wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Can you imagine something like this happening in America? A new, dangerous respiratory virus mutating in the overcrowded and unhygienic environment of a poorly-managed city market, and then spreading almost unchecked for six weeks, amidst continual denials of its serious nature? No, probably not.

No, instead we just have periodic resurgence of diseases that have been cured for decades, like measles, that kill hundreds of children and vulnerable adults because a significant portion of our population doesn't "believe" in modern science and a significant portion of our government isn't willing to make them do otherwise. But no, we don't have dirty food markets, so we have that going for us.

These diseases typically manifest in areas with high populations of religious fanatics. Many of the cases that I have heard of originate in the boroughs NYC. Sounds strange that a large population of religious fanatics would reside in NYC but they are there.
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