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Re: First Case of New Coronavirus Detected in U.S.

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Post by dx034 » Wed, Jan 22, 2020, 7:19 AM UTC

NetBeck wrote: post #107

munificent wrote: post #63

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The Spanish Flu was almost exactly 100 years ago. Recent enough that we think of it as being in modern times with relatively modern medicine and hospitals. My grandmother lived through it, so this isn't the distant past. Current estimates are that it killed up to 100,000,000 million people, as many as the black plague. We have much better medicine now, thankfully. But we also live in a much more deeply connected worl…

The Spanish Flu also influenced the design of old radiator heating systems. "The Spanish influenza epidemic, which took place during the winter of 1918–19, had a dramatic effect on the way heating engineers sized radiators," explains Dan Holohan, author of several books on steam heat and founder of HeatingHelp.com. "Central heating was relatively new then and the world had never seen anything as horrible as the Spani…

Interesting, but I'm not sure that's still valid. At least for European apartments I've lived in, radiators were never sized so that they could've heated apartments on the coldest day with wind and windows open. In older apartments cold days with wind can already be a challenge with windows permanently closed.

So I guess that fell out of favor at some point when heating costs became a bigger issue.

Re: First Case of New Coronavirus Detected in U.S.

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Post by akiselev » Wed, Jan 22, 2020, 7:27 AM UTC

t0ughcritic wrote: post #170

akiselev wrote: post #132

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The Hajj is a once in a lifetime pilgrimage for most Muslims while the Arba'een is an annual regional event of Shia solidarity. The former is done by a far greater number of unique individuals but the latter can be bigger on an annual basis.

What about the Kumbh Mela known as the worlds largest congregation of pilgrims?

TIL!

Re: First Case of New Coronavirus Detected in U.S.

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Post by tanilama » Wed, Jan 22, 2020, 7:45 AM UTC

avcdsuia wrote: post #185

tanilama wrote: post #139

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It is just pointless bashing, covering up 2 months? Think how this pandemic had escalated in a week, and neighboring countries will not notice it for 2 months? Some people have some weird imagination

There were no new cases in China except Wuhan and HongKong a week ago, how's that possible if they weren't covering up?

Why is this covering up?

Firstly there isn't one case confirmed in HongKong yet.

Secondly, the virus could take up to 2 weeks to start showing symptoms and it is only until recently the method to detect this virus efficiently had been discovered.

This is a new virus, and its behavior takes time to understand.

Re: First Case of New Coronavirus Detected in U.S.

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Post by King-Aaron » Wed, Jan 22, 2020, 7:47 AM UTC

keyle wrote: post #175

King-Aaron wrote: post #164

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You're missing the confirmed case in Queensland, Aus

Person was released out of containment, was feared to have it.

I was about to do a cheeky edit on that comment, but yeah, old mate was cleared :)

Re: First Case of New Coronavirus Detected in U.S.

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Post by munchhausen » Wed, Jan 22, 2020, 8:19 AM UTC

Nothorized wrote: post #77

diehunde wrote: post #71

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I travel almost every week and washing my hands every time I can plus never touching my face have kept me ill-free for a couple of years now. Of course I also take other precautions like avoiding closed spaces with sick people, good sleep, drink water and exercise regularly.

How did you break the constant need to touch your face? I tried to do that, and in 5 minutes I am back in touching some part of my face.

You must be attentive enough to your impulses to catch yourself wanting to do it before you actually do it.

It takes years to develop that level of attentiveness, but it's oh-so-worth-it. And not just because it lets you avoid the seasonal colds :)

Re: First Case of New Coronavirus Detected in U.S.

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Post by dear » Wed, Jan 22, 2020, 9:08 AM UTC

nickczj wrote: post #122

exposay wrote: post #108

China has been covering it up for 2 months. Minimal action was taken to prevent the disease from spreading and they kept denying until a couple days ago when it was no longer possible to cover it up because it is spreading to neighboring countries who have been complaining for the whole time. Regional/local governments have been trying to downplay it because it makes them "look bad". It is essentially a replay of SAR…

China doesn't get to decide the scientific consensus. Teams of scientists spanning multiple countries + NGOs like the WHO make the risk assessment. The reason the scientific consensus was that there was no human-human transmission was because...there was no evidence of human-human transmission. All previous cases could be directly traced back to the market, and there were previously no clear evidence of healthcare wo…

The Chinese central government has already admitted their officials have been trying to cover it up. The president Xi had made it clear that he would "nail" the officials who are covering it up on the "pillar of shame" and those people will be "criminals of 10 thousand years".

Re: First Case of New Coronavirus Detected in U.S.

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Post by dear » Wed, Jan 22, 2020, 9:38 AM UTC

tanilama wrote: post #139

Aperocky wrote: post #135

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Source? From wikipedia: > The first suspected cases were reported on 31 December 2019

It is just pointless bashing, covering up 2 months? Think how this pandemic had escalated in a week, and neighboring countries will not notice it for 2 months? Some people have some weird imagination

I don't think you follow the news there. Just because you've only heard it yesterday doesn't make it new. The neighbouring countries have been on guard on the issue. There have been lots of news, leaks and complaints on this issue for the past several weeks. In fact the wet market in Wuhan had been officially "closed" for at least 3 weeks due to the disease. That means the pandemic has been spreading far longer than that.

Now they suddenly started to release updated numbers (due to pressure from their neighbouring countries) and you think it'd only "escalated in a week".

Some people have some weird imagination

* http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/a/202001/01/WS5e0c6a49a310cf3e3...

Re: First Case of New Coronavirus Detected in U.S.

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Post by avcdsuia » Wed, Jan 22, 2020, 9:49 AM UTC

tanilama wrote: post #193

avcdsuia wrote: post #185

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There were no new cases in China except Wuhan and HongKong a week ago, how's that possible if they weren't covering up?

Why is this covering up? Firstly there isn't one case confirmed in HongKong yet. Secondly, the virus could take up to 2 weeks to start showing symptoms and it is only until recently the method to detect this virus efficiently had been discovered. This is a new virus, and its behavior takes time to understand.

> Firstly there isn't one case confirmed in HongKong yet.

[0], [1]

I agree this is a new virus we know little about, but did you know folks in Wuhan were still gathering in crowds without any precautions [2], and ppl got caught spreading so-called fake news of this virus?

[0] https://twitter.com/alvinllum/status/1219911842723553283

[1] https://news.rthk.hk/rthk/ch/component/k2/1504214-20200122.h...

[2] https://twitter.com/Xhnsoc__Redflag/status/12194676125282181...)

Re: First Case of New Coronavirus Detected in U.S.

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Post by trianglem » Wed, Jan 22, 2020, 10:01 AM UTC

Fomite wrote: post #182

knolax wrote: post #176

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> It's more like hunter gatherer hunting for bushmeat embedded in an agricultural and livestock raising society where such hunting is unnecessary so the hunt is more about status It seems like you just described "the hunting culture that persists in developed societies".

Just like with Ebola, we really like using "bushmeat" as othering language to describe hunting.

Never thought of it like that but “bushmeat” is just hunted game. Right?

Re: First Case of New Coronavirus Detected in U.S.

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Post by dear » Wed, Jan 22, 2020, 10:07 AM UTC

mamborambo wrote: post #162

An important side story is that CCP's active political interference of Taiwan's participation in World Health Organisation and other international coordination effort in the past few years, can affect Taiwan's ability to contain any pandemic from spreading. And since there is estimated 200,000 Taiwan nationals living across the strait, their mobility especially during the Spring festival can become a huge conduit for…

There has been critics in Asia on that the ex-Director General (2006-2017) of WHO, Margaret Chan, who was sponsored by China for the position, had been building up influence in the organization for China during her term so WHO would work in China's favour. Its effect is showing this time in how WHO handled this incident. Instead of taking a lead and look into the whether China had handled the pandemic properly upon its onset, WHO just parrot China's official stance, in fear of offending China.

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margaret_Chan