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First Case of New Coronavirus Detected in U.S.

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Post by munificent »

ASalazarMX wrote: post #153
munificent wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Spanish Flu was almost exactly 100 years ago. Recent enough that we think of it as being in modern times with relatively modern medicine and hospitals. My grandmother lived through it, so this isn't the distant past. Current estimates are that it killed up to 100,000,000 million people, as many as the black plague. We have much better medicine now, thankfully. But we also live in a much more deeply connected worl…

> it killed up to 100,000,000 million people Jesus Christ, that's more than 100,000 Earths! No wonder people were upset. Joke aside, it was 50-100 million; the black plague was 100-200 million. Of course there was lot less people then.

Oops! Decided to write out the number but forgot to delete the word. :)

Re: First Case of New Coronavirus Detected in U.S.

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Post by mamborambo »

An important side story is that CCP's active political interference of Taiwan's participation in World Health Organisation and other international coordination effort in the past few years, can affect Taiwan's ability to contain any pandemic from spreading.

And since there is estimated 200,000 Taiwan nationals living across the strait, their mobility especially during the Spring festival can become a huge conduit for spreading infection from China into Taiwan.

It is high time that the UN commits to a resolution to insulate shared global issues (hygiene and environment) from politics, and stop China from playing with fire again and again.

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Post by King-Aaron »

EdibleMarbles wrote: post #102

If anyone wants to track the progression of the virus, I created a quick site with a Google Maps embed to show where the virus has been found so far. I'll be improving it over the next few days. http://www.coronavirusmap.com/

You're missing the confirmed case in Queensland, Aus

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Post by knolax »

yzh wrote: post #137

It is not SARS, but it is highly possible that it was caused by people who kill and sell wild animals in the live poultry market. Where these animals like gem-faced civet got virus from bats. It is a long-held tradition for certain regions in China to eat wild animals. We even have a Chengyu called: 山珍海味, meaning precious and tasty animals from mountains and seas. Most wild animals are not evolved to be eaten by huma…

Literally every culture hunts wild game. This is such a weird thing to consider unique to China.

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Post by glofish »

koheripbal wrote: post #60
glofish wrote: post #17

I feel like it has been so long since the swine flu, bird flu, H1N1 flu, and other flu scares that we are due for one. Like the recessions the flu scares are cyclical.

Recessions happen somewhat cyclically because imbalances build up in the economy that ultimately cause some sort of dislocation. The same is not true in virology. There is no "pent up" mechanism that needs to periodically release an outbreak. It is entirely random and in these types of outbreaks simply becomes more likely when many animal species exist in close proximity, allowing virus cross-over. It's no coincidenc…

I think is more about the perceptions and at what point does the media and people start to pay attention aka "flu scare". I have the feeling it has nothing to do with the actual number of people that are sickened.

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Post by t0ughcritic »

knolax wrote: post #165
yzh wrote: post #137

It is not SARS, but it is highly possible that it was caused by people who kill and sell wild animals in the live poultry market. Where these animals like gem-faced civet got virus from bats. It is a long-held tradition for certain regions in China to eat wild animals. We even have a Chengyu called: 山珍海味, meaning precious and tasty animals from mountains and seas. Most wild animals are not evolved to be eaten by huma…

Literally every culture hunts wild game. This is such a weird thing to consider unique to China.

Do indian people?

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Post by corporate_shi11 »

knolax wrote: post #165
yzh wrote: post #137

It is not SARS, but it is highly possible that it was caused by people who kill and sell wild animals in the live poultry market. Where these animals like gem-faced civet got virus from bats. It is a long-held tradition for certain regions in China to eat wild animals. We even have a Chengyu called: 山珍海味, meaning precious and tasty animals from mountains and seas. Most wild animals are not evolved to be eaten by huma…

Literally every culture hunts wild game. This is such a weird thing to consider unique to China.

What they're describing is different from the hunting culture that persists in developed societies. It's more like hunter gatherer hunting for bushmeat embedded in an agricultural and livestock raising society where such hunting is unnecessary so the hunt is more about status, which is a bit unique.

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Post by t0ughcritic »

akiselev wrote: post #132
dmix wrote: post #124

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's surprising, Hajj gets a lot more press/prestige it seems. Saudi is a similar sized population as Iraq, that infographic comparison is interesting to say the least: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Middle_Eastern_countri... (Iran, not listed, is 81.16M)

The Hajj is a once in a lifetime pilgrimage for most Muslims while the Arba'een is an annual regional event of Shia solidarity. The former is done by a far greater number of unique individuals but the latter can be bigger on an annual basis.

What about the Kumbh Mela known as the worlds largest congregation of pilgrims?
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