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First Case of New Coronavirus Detected in U.S.

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Re: First Case of New Coronavirus Detected in U.S.

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It is not SARS, but it is highly possible that it was caused by people who kill and sell wild animals in the live poultry market. Where these animals like gem-faced civet got virus from bats. It is a long-held tradition for certain regions in China to eat wild animals. We even have a Chengyu called: 山珍海味, meaning precious and tasty animals from mountains and seas. Most wild animals are not evolved to be eaten by huma…

Good point but evidence suggests that this case from a fish market

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An important side story is that CCP's active political interference of Taiwan's participation in World Health Organisation and other international coordination effort in the past few years, can affect Taiwan's ability to contain any pandemic from spreading. And since there is estimated 200,000 Taiwan nationals living across the strait, their mobility especially during the Spring festival can become a huge conduit for…

> It is high time that the UN commits to a resolution to insulate shared global issues (hygiene and environment) from politics, and stop China from playing with fire again and again.

To play devil's advocate, let's say China continues with her "eff you, no" foreign policy. Now what? The UN has limited powers to enforce such a resolution. What limited powers it has depend on cooperation by member nations, typically including a majority of the security council permanent members. None of those countries want to upset current relations with China, so the UN can't really coerce China to do anything.

Re: First Case of New Coronavirus Detected in U.S.

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An important side story is that CCP's active political interference of Taiwan's participation in World Health Organisation and other international coordination effort in the past few years, can affect Taiwan's ability to contain any pandemic from spreading. And since there is estimated 200,000 Taiwan nationals living across the strait, their mobility especially during the Spring festival can become a huge conduit for…

From 2009 to 2016, Taiwan participated in the World Health Assembly under the name "Chinese Taipei", which has been a formula similar to its Olympics team that is known to be workable if health is the concern. Of course when the political winds changed, Taiwan no longer wanted to participate under this name, but you can't say with a straight face that CPC is solely at fault here. Taiwan wants to play politics just as much.

Regardless, this has no bearing on containing pandemics. Taiwan sends a panel to the WHA anyway, just not under a country flag. Nice propagandistic farce that works for the domestic audience on both sides.

Re: First Case of New Coronavirus Detected in U.S.

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If anyone wants to track the progression of the virus, I created a quick site with a Google Maps embed to show where the virus has been found so far. I'll be improving it over the next few days. http://www.coronavirusmap.com/

Is it just me, or does it not even have Wuhan?

Seems it only marks the countries where the virus has been found, not paticullar cities.

Re: First Case of New Coronavirus Detected in U.S.

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If anyone wants to track the progression of the virus, I created a quick site with a Google Maps embed to show where the virus has been found so far. I'll be improving it over the next few days. http://www.coronavirusmap.com/

You're missing the confirmed case in Queensland, Aus

Person was released out of containment, was feared to have it.

Re: First Case of New Coronavirus Detected in U.S.

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post #165

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Literally every culture hunts wild game. This is such a weird thing to consider unique to China.

What they're describing is different from the hunting culture that persists in developed societies. It's more like hunter gatherer hunting for bushmeat embedded in an agricultural and livestock raising society where such hunting is unnecessary so the hunt is more about status, which is a bit unique.

> It's more like hunter gatherer hunting for bushmeat embedded in an agricultural and livestock raising society where such hunting is unnecessary so the hunt is more about status

It seems like you just described "the hunting culture that persists in developed societies".

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I was in Guangdong when SARS happened in 2003, I have heard rumors for months until the Chinese gov eventually admitted there's such virus exists. Ever since then I basically have zero trust in the Chinese gov. For this time, since Chinese new year is coming, I had actually warned my coworkers do not go back to China, especially Wuhan, a couple days back. So bad not everyone listen, now they are kind of scared.

Re: First Case of New Coronavirus Detected in U.S.

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post #87

Reports are that China has just quarantined Wuhan, a city of 11 million people.

Wuhan is in the middle of China, every transit passes through it. It’s like the Chicago of China. There is no way in hell the government is going to able to lock it down.

Re: First Case of New Coronavirus Detected in U.S.

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post #171
post #137

It is not SARS, but it is highly possible that it was caused by people who kill and sell wild animals in the live poultry market. Where these animals like gem-faced civet got virus from bats. It is a long-held tradition for certain regions in China to eat wild animals. We even have a Chengyu called: 山珍海味, meaning precious and tasty animals from mountains and seas. Most wild animals are not evolved to be eaten by huma…

Good point but evidence suggests that this case from a fish market

You're right that the name is 华南海鲜市场 (Huanan seafood market). But the name is actually not accurate. The market sells a wide range of wild animals spanning from rabbits to Chinese bamboo rat, which is suspect to be the source of the virus.

Re: First Case of New Coronavirus Detected in U.S.

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I was in Guangdong when SARS happened in 2003, I have heard rumors for months until the Chinese gov eventually admitted there's such virus exists. Ever since then I basically have zero trust in the Chinese gov. For this time, since Chinese new year is coming, I had actually warned my coworkers do not go back to China, especially Wuhan, a couple days back. So bad not everyone listen, now they are kind of scared.

Yup SARS did not coincide with hundred of millions of people stuffed in closed compact train cars and plane seats for hours at a time. This coronavirus might mutate faster than we could predict. Nobody should be traveling to China right now
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