Cloudflare is turning off the internet for me • Hacker News Board

Re: Cloudflare is turning off the internet for me

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Post by mrtksn » Tue, Jan 21, 2020, 7:38 PM UTC

ppseafield wrote: post #53

mrtksn wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They blocked Nazis after some attack or something like that. The founder wrote an emotional letter back then, acknowledging how bad is this and how he hates becoming the internet police.

It wasn't some attack. The guy behind the Daily Stormer stated publicly that Cloudflare not shutting off his service means they agree with and support the Daily Stormer's content. > The tipping point for us making this decision was that the team behind Daily Stormer made the claim that we were secretly supporters of their ideology. [0] That's in a blog post which is a follow up to a leaked memo. [1] [0] https://blog.…

Thanks for the clarification. Do you remember why the blog in question was a hot topic?

Re: Cloudflare is turning off the internet for me

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Post by gruez » Tue, Jan 21, 2020, 7:38 PM UTC

chewmieser wrote: post #23

jagger27 wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The simplest way is just to use CloudFlare for DNS only (grey cloud button) until you're under attack. edit: do not follow my advice

This is a horrible recommendation and will ensure that the attack can continue after activating CloudFlare. You've already exposed your origin's IPs in this circumstance.

can't you ask your provider for a new one?

Re: Cloudflare is turning off the internet for me

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Post by cortesoft » Tue, Jan 21, 2020, 7:38 PM UTC

Valmar wrote: post #55

cortesoft wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am guessing it is the cutting of service to neo-nazi websites: https://www.wired.com/story/free-speech-issue-cloudflare/ Personally, I don't think free speech requires providing services to neo-nazis, but I get the nuances of the case.

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First, no one said the SPLC is the final say for this.

Second, do you have any examples of an organization that the SPLC deemed a white supremacist that wasn't?

Re: Cloudflare is turning off the internet for me

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Post by sct202 » Tue, Jan 21, 2020, 7:39 PM UTC

Random web hosts also have sloppy antibot 'AI's'. Siteground's is the most annoying because it for some reason thinks my work's network is a bot, and it doesn't identify itself unless you reverse image search their little anti-bot picture.

Re: Cloudflare is turning off the internet for me

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Post by tmoravec » Tue, Jan 21, 2020, 7:40 PM UTC

asdf21 wrote: post #59

tmoravec wrote: post #20

Cloudflare is also making TOR quite useless.

I don't know the specifics on this, could you elaborate?

Half the websites I visit give me the CloudFlare screen like

    One more step
    Please complete the security check to access .

Followed by either endless stream of ReCaptchas or one completely impossible.

Re: Cloudflare is turning off the internet for me

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Post by BenjiWiebe » Tue, Jan 21, 2020, 7:41 PM UTC

cronix wrote: post #54

I've been noticing a larger and larger portion of sites in google results have been taken over by something . They all act the same way, and act similar to cloudfares checks. You get a big green dot on the screen first and then a bunch of redirects. I've not read anything about it, but probably 1/15 of my google result clicks end up there. How does google not know these sites have been taken over and keep them on the…

I have a little tip for you; right-click your back arrow, and choose your search page from the list.

Re: Cloudflare is turning off the internet for me

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Post by pferde » Tue, Jan 21, 2020, 7:43 PM UTC

stopads wrote: post #11

I also refuse to complete captchas because I'm not interested in giving a trillion dollar company my free labor to help train their models. I'm really close to just defaulting JavaScript off entirely, the web is becoming so much worse by the day.

I've had js turned off by default for many years now, and don't feel like I'm missing out on anything important. Your mileage, of course, may vary.

Re: Cloudflare is turning off the internet for me

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Post by [deleted] » Tue, Jan 21, 2020, 7:43 PM UTC

tmoravec wrote: post #20

Cloudflare is also making TOR quite useless.

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Re: Cloudflare is turning off the internet for me

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Post by dijit » Tue, Jan 21, 2020, 7:44 PM UTC

hn_lurker1 wrote: post #36

I think the site went down. Here's the archive: http://archive.is/dVfYE

Ironically; Cloudflare would be quite useful for me right now. :)

Re: Cloudflare is turning off the internet for me

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Post by JakeTheAndroid » Tue, Jan 21, 2020, 7:45 PM UTC

szczepano wrote: post #46

psz wrote: post #16

Because the author using a niche browser (QT wrapped in an app), this might be Browser Integrity Check. It's purpose is to block non-browser like behaviour common for spammers/malware. That would also explain switching to Chrome fixes the issue. https://support.cloudflare.com/hc/en-us/articles/200170086-U...

So if your browser agent is not firefox, chrome, safari internet can stop working. What a great side feature.

Yeah, because most custom browsers are malicious. They have the data to prove it. This isn't a side feature, it's a direct feature that is 100% intentional. They maintain a backend whitelist of known "good" user-agents. Curl is on that list and there are a few others outside of the big players.

Most people building custom browsers are doing it to do something Chrome would disallow. One instance would only supporting one, weak-ish cipher forcing TLS to use a predictable cipher instead of choosing the best available encryption for transit. While I agree some people have cool browser projects that would be nice to use, it's a side effect of bad actors abusing the system. Most of the annoying parts of Cloudflare exist because bad actors have abused the system.