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Cloudflare is turning off the internet for me

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Re: Cloudflare is turning off the internet for me

#12

It's okay, don't worry. Cloudflare would never use this incredible power for political purposes... ...oh wait, yes, they have and they will again. We've given them the power to censor and with the power increasingly comes the onus to do so, to satisfy the political whims of an elite that doesn't like anything counter to their narrative.

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Re: Cloudflare is turning off the internet for me

#13

It's okay, don't worry. Cloudflare would never use this incredible power for political purposes... ...oh wait, yes, they have and they will again. We've given them the power to censor and with the power increasingly comes the onus to do so, to satisfy the political whims of an elite that doesn't like anything counter to their narrative.

Do you have any evidence of this? I'd take a dodgy looking blogspot URL over absolute nothing

Re: Cloudflare is turning off the internet for me

#15

It's okay, don't worry. Cloudflare would never use this incredible power for political purposes... ...oh wait, yes, they have and they will again. We've given them the power to censor and with the power increasingly comes the onus to do so, to satisfy the political whims of an elite that doesn't like anything counter to their narrative.

> ...yes, they have and they will again.

I don't doubt this, but do you have more info on what you're referring to on "they have"? I'm a bit out of the loop on that.

Re: Cloudflare is turning off the internet for me

#16
Because the author using a niche browser (QT wrapped in an app), this might be Browser Integrity Check. It's purpose is to block non-browser like behaviour common for spammers/malware.

That would also explain switching to Chrome fixes the issue.

https://support.cloudflare.com/hc/en-us/articles/200170086-U...

Re: Cloudflare is turning off the internet for me

#17
The problem presented by services like ReCaptcha and Cloudflare is a tough nut to crack.

They're silently embedded in a huge portion of modern websites, and the average user will never even know about them.

But it seems to be way too easy for them to blanket-ban or serve an absurd amount of captchas to powerusers, linux gurus, privacy geeks, or anyone with the wrong combination of browser+addons. And the failures (as in this case) are often silent, cryptic, un-fixable from the user end, and can prevent us from accessing massive swaths of the internet. Any thoughts surrounding this conundrum?

Solutions:

1. Everyone stops using ReCaptcha/Cloudflare.

- Never going to happen. They dominate the market because they are useful, well-made services.

2. Launch a competing product that accomplishes the same thing.

- Good luck competing with these giants. Also, how would your implementation differ to solve this issue?

3. Powerusers and tech nerds must conform to 'normal' browser configurations and disable privacy addons in order to enjoy the internet with 'normal' users.

- Two steps backwards in every conceivable way. The giants gain more invisible power and powerusers suffer decreased productivity/privacy. Not going to happen.

Re: Cloudflare is turning off the internet for me

#18
post #11

I also refuse to complete captchas because I'm not interested in giving a trillion dollar company my free labor to help train their models. I'm really close to just defaulting JavaScript off entirely, the web is becoming so much worse by the day.

They’re also using your labor to train models by serving you pages and checking which links you click. No js required.

Re: Cloudflare is turning off the internet for me

#19
post #10

To be fair, site owners are in control of those settings.

Which settings would those be? I'm using Cloudflare for a couple of my sites, and if I can fix this, I will. Otherwise I'll stop using Cloudflare.

The simplest way is just to use CloudFlare for DNS only (grey cloud button) until you're under attack.

edit: do not follow my advice

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