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Draft of German copyright reform proposes memes should only be up to 128 pixels

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Re: Draft of German copyright reform proposes memes should only be up to 128 pixels

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Post by JadeNB »

no_identd wrote: post #70
diamondo25 wrote: post #13

What a meme. Maybe they can just cut up the meme in chunks of 128x128 and display that instead. Its not a full image but a lot of tiny ones

i.e. JPEG macroblocks? Sounds like a challenge for a metamemetic image meme-image–macro meme image codec(MIM-I–MIMIC) format to lampshade the absurdity of all of this. (No, I ain't gonna write it. But I did just give all y'all an acronym for it, and I ain't gonna ask any of you to write it, either. However, I do dare challenge you to come up with some recursive derivation of the acronym, tho!)

> some recursive derivation of the acronym

MIMIC: MIMIC Is Memes In Chunks.

Re: Draft of German copyright reform proposes memes should only be up to 128 pixels

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Post by jerf »

ginko wrote: post #67
TulliusCicero wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Compared to the US, Germany is more regulation heavy in general. Many of those regulations seem fine or even great, there are definitely ones that weird me out a bit as an American living here though, like legally enforced quiet hours on Sunday, days where it's illegal to dance, and really just the large amount of government-religion interaction.

I don't know. The US does seem to also have its fair share of strange, overbearing laws to the point where you can easily find "weirdest us laws" lists online: https://www.businessinsider.com/weird-us-laws?r=US&IR=T

Those are generally on the books because they are unenforced, so nobody even thinks to remove them. Were they enforced, they'd be struck quickly. Sometimes that even happens.

Are the ones in Germany enforced? Honest question, I don't know, and I'm interested in the answer.

Re: Draft of German copyright reform proposes memes should only be up to 128 pixels

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Post by t0astbread »

dahart wrote: post #69

I don’t understand all the mock outrage; memes are already illegal in most cases at any size and copyrights are currently being enforced with takedowns in some cases. It seem like the title & text is trying to be intentionally inflammatory. It’s already illegal to use someone else’s image without permission, unless you’re covered by fair use (which memes are not automatically). Memes just happen to not be very enforc…

The recent tonal shift regarding online expression and copyright in the EU certainly doesn't suggest that the intention here was to increase internet users' rights.

Re: Draft of German copyright reform proposes memes should only be up to 128 pixels

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Post by Cthulhu_ »

ginko wrote: post #67
TulliusCicero wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Compared to the US, Germany is more regulation heavy in general. Many of those regulations seem fine or even great, there are definitely ones that weird me out a bit as an American living here though, like legally enforced quiet hours on Sunday, days where it's illegal to dance, and really just the large amount of government-religion interaction.

I don't know. The US does seem to also have its fair share of strange, overbearing laws to the point where you can easily find "weirdest us laws" lists online: https://www.businessinsider.com/weird-us-laws?r=US&IR=T

I'm more worried about the lack of certain laws in the US - like worker protection, minimum wage, working hours kinda laws.

Re: Draft of German copyright reform proposes memes should only be up to 128 pixels

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Post by [deleted] »

dahart wrote: post #69

I don’t understand all the mock outrage; memes are already illegal in most cases at any size and copyrights are currently being enforced with takedowns in some cases. It seem like the title & text is trying to be intentionally inflammatory. It’s already illegal to use someone else’s image without permission, unless you’re covered by fair use (which memes are not automatically). Memes just happen to not be very enforc…

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Re: Draft of German copyright reform proposes memes should only be up to 128 pixels

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Post by falcolas »

dahart wrote: post #69

I don’t understand all the mock outrage; memes are already illegal in most cases at any size and copyrights are currently being enforced with takedowns in some cases. It seem like the title & text is trying to be intentionally inflammatory. It’s already illegal to use someone else’s image without permission, unless you’re covered by fair use (which memes are not automatically). Memes just happen to not be very enforc…

> Isn’t that a good thing, and more freedom than internet memers have right now?

Maybe? 128 pixels is a vanishingly small amount as display pixel density continues to rise. That's under an inch on many displays.

Not to mention, while no fair use defense is automatic (fair use is a defense against copyright lawsuits in court), memes feel like they easily and cleanly fall under "parody", and perhaps "critique" categories.

Re: Draft of German copyright reform proposes memes should only be up to 128 pixels

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Post by svth »

TulliusCicero wrote: post #58
kamakazizuru wrote: post #32

there's a bizarre trend in Germany in the last few months for legistlating completely unneccesary things. This is a great example. Additionally today they announced that while profits on stock trading (specifically derivatives) can be taxed fully, losses can only be accounted for upto 10.000€ Berlin is trying to freeze rents for the next 5 years and make it possible to retroactively lower rents to the level of 2013.…

Compared to the US, Germany is more regulation heavy in general. Many of those regulations seem fine or even great, there are definitely ones that weird me out a bit as an American living here though, like legally enforced quiet hours on Sunday, days where it's illegal to dance, and really just the large amount of government-religion interaction.

The US has lots of overbearing regulations and laws relating to "moral" stuff such as drinking and nudity. In many places in the US, it's illegal to drink alcohol in public [!!!]. That's pretty fucked up, not being allowed to drink a beer on a park bench. And don't get me started on the puritan anti-nudity laws...

Re: Draft of German copyright reform proposes memes should only be up to 128 pixels

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Post by paulhilbert »

Klathmon wrote: post #51
diamondo25 wrote: post #13

What a meme. Maybe they can just cut up the meme in chunks of 128x128 and display that instead. Its not a full image but a lot of tiny ones

How do countries like Germany handle it when someone meets the letter of the law but not the spirit of it?

Not at all. In fact I would call doing that the most German thing you can do.
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