So they need to do a deal with the devil in order to loose the keyboards and copy established designs. Nokia + MS = 2 x Marketing.
Some of us still prefer having a qwerty keyboard. At least I wont be buying another phone without one.
Nokia's Windows Phone 7 concept revealed
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Re: Nokia's Windows Phone 7 concept revealed
#42I guess I don't see it. Here are my rough thoughts. 1. Nokia was on the verge of non-existence. Honestly, Meego and Symbian were not going to cut it. Nokia just didn't have the chops to do it and that was obvious. 2. MSFT was aching to get in the game w/ something/someone other than HTC and this was a real opportunity. 3. Nokia hand Android available to it or this partnership w/ MSFT. By choosing MSFT they got cash i…
Your views on WP7 apps are a bit off, there is a huge pool of C# devs who are eager to get into a viable app-market. The WP7 tools are free and have been downloaded 2 million times (according to MS). The app store is growing well, and there are about 8000 apps, which is pretty good considering the plaform is v1 and is only about 4 months old. I've found the quality of apps good, and most of the major players have released apps (e.g. facebook, twitter, amazon etc). The Xbox live games are particularly good (although a bit expensive)
Re: Nokia's Windows Phone 7 concept revealed
#43So they need to do a deal with the devil in order to loose the keyboards and copy established designs. Nokia + MS = 2 x Marketing.
There are already WP7 phones with keyboards, so I don't see why Nokia won't make some
Re: Nokia's Windows Phone 7 concept revealed
#44Huh? Is this thread full of Nokia/Microsoft PR people? Seriously. How does this not look like every other modern Android, WP7, iPhone rip off? - Black minimalist screen ✓ - Horizontal speaker port ✓ - Buttons on the bottom ✓ - Cheap plastic case ✓ I don't think this phone could look more generic. Is this the state of the art in phone design outside of Cupertino? Are people's expectations really this low? I really don…
I'm not sure how much hardware design has to do with a phone's success anymore. After the iPhone came out, every manufacturer now makes phones that are 90% screen. How close are we to hardware design where the bezel around the screen is 1mm and the whole device is only a few millimeters thick? Won't every phone basically look the same with the OS and user experience the only differentiators? Isn't that pretty much happening already?
Re: Nokia's Windows Phone 7 concept revealed
#45Huh? Is this thread full of Nokia/Microsoft PR people? Seriously. How does this not look like every other modern Android, WP7, iPhone rip off? - Black minimalist screen ✓ - Horizontal speaker port ✓ - Buttons on the bottom ✓ - Cheap plastic case ✓ I don't think this phone could look more generic. Is this the state of the art in phone design outside of Cupertino? Are people's expectations really this low? I really don…
The iPhone 4 hardware is just pleasurable to hold. It's a slab of magic glass with this Bauhaus designed edge. Just handling it almost makes me smile.
That said, there's more fundamental value in the software, how well that software performs the functionality I want to use, and how well the battery, touch interface, and other hardware support that functionality.
"Shiny and makes me smile" in the end is just a nice adjunct to "does what I need and helps me make money." Apple has both. That's a hard combination to beat in the short term. In the long term, the latter is the foundation.
Re: Nokia's Windows Phone 7 concept revealed
#46Huh? Is this thread full of Nokia/Microsoft PR people? Seriously. How does this not look like every other modern Android, WP7, iPhone rip off? - Black minimalist screen ✓ - Horizontal speaker port ✓ - Buttons on the bottom ✓ - Cheap plastic case ✓ I don't think this phone could look more generic. Is this the state of the art in phone design outside of Cupertino? Are people's expectations really this low? I really don…
I'm not sure how much hardware design has to do with a phone's success anymore. After the iPhone came out, every manufacturer now makes phones that are 90% screen. How close are we to hardware design where the bezel around the screen is 1mm and the whole device is only a few millimeters thick? Won't every phone basically look the same with the OS and user experience the only differentiators? Isn't that pretty much ha…
Not anymore than watches all looked the same and accuracy, features, and water resistance were the only differentiators.
Re: Nokia's Windows Phone 7 concept revealed
#47Earlier quoted context omitted.
in case you didn't know the WP7 app store has eveolved faster than android and has already passed 8000 apps. It's about the same speed at which iPhone market evolved, except that the iPhone had a huge installed base by the time apps were allowed. It's foolish to underestimate the developer muscle of MSFT.
exactly, just as Android looked to tap into the market of developers who know Java will, WP7 goes for C# developers - of which there are many. Microsoft treat their developers well.
Microsoft should be able to look at what sucks about the Apple ecosystem and capitalize on those factors by tuning them into their advantages and Apple's weakness.
Re: Nokia's Windows Phone 7 concept revealed
#48I guess I don't see it. Here are my rough thoughts. 1. Nokia was on the verge of non-existence. Honestly, Meego and Symbian were not going to cut it. Nokia just didn't have the chops to do it and that was obvious. 2. MSFT was aching to get in the game w/ something/someone other than HTC and this was a real opportunity. 3. Nokia hand Android available to it or this partnership w/ MSFT. By choosing MSFT they got cash i…
Nokia was on the verge of non-existence.
Only in the smartphone context. They have strong sales and would have strong sales for quite awhile, even if they just gave up making anything new.
Re: Nokia's Windows Phone 7 concept revealed
#49Huh? Is this thread full of Nokia/Microsoft PR people? Seriously. How does this not look like every other modern Android, WP7, iPhone rip off? - Black minimalist screen ✓ - Horizontal speaker port ✓ - Buttons on the bottom ✓ - Cheap plastic case ✓ I don't think this phone could look more generic. Is this the state of the art in phone design outside of Cupertino? Are people's expectations really this low? I really don…
Actually i think it own of the rare phones that does not look like a iphone clone and looks gorgeus.
As I said before, Nokia is the only phone company that has design on level with Apple - what is really hard by the way
Re: Nokia's Windows Phone 7 concept revealed
#50Huh? Is this thread full of Nokia/Microsoft PR people? Seriously. How does this not look like every other modern Android, WP7, iPhone rip off? - Black minimalist screen ✓ - Horizontal speaker port ✓ - Buttons on the bottom ✓ - Cheap plastic case ✓ I don't think this phone could look more generic. Is this the state of the art in phone design outside of Cupertino? Are people's expectations really this low? I really don…
I'm not sure how much hardware design has to do with a phone's success anymore. After the iPhone came out, every manufacturer now makes phones that are 90% screen. How close are we to hardware design where the bezel around the screen is 1mm and the whole device is only a few millimeters thick? Won't every phone basically look the same with the OS and user experience the only differentiators? Isn't that pretty much ha…
> After the iPhone came out, every manufacturer now makes phones that are 90% screen.
That's the problem. Everyone is copying Apple. Most cars are just four wheels, an engine, some seats, and a steering wheel, but between Lamborghini, Ferrari, Königsegg, Maserati, etc. there is a ton of variation and very iconic design unique to each brand.
The only company _designing_ phone hardware right now is Apple, and the only two companies designing phone software are Apple and Microsoft. For a piece of phone hardware to elicit the responses in this thread it should do something more than copy Apple's design from 4 years ago.