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Nokia's Windows Phone 7 concept revealed

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Re: Nokia's Windows Phone 7 concept revealed

#32

Hmm, looks a bit like the Nexus S. Smart-phones are about the software, not the hardware (above a certain threshold). And even then, WP7 can be the sliced bread of smart-phones, but if they don't have an apps ecosystem, they're not going to take off. With iOS and Android at roughly 20-30% each, and with WP7 at, what, 0-1%? -- who is going to develop WP7 apps? We might not think about it now, but it took a long time f…

in case you didn't know the WP7 app store has eveolved faster than android and has already passed 8000 apps. It's about the same speed at which iPhone market evolved, except that the iPhone had a huge installed base by the time apps were allowed.

It's foolish to underestimate the developer muscle of MSFT.

Re: Nokia's Windows Phone 7 concept revealed

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post #32

Hmm, looks a bit like the Nexus S. Smart-phones are about the software, not the hardware (above a certain threshold). And even then, WP7 can be the sliced bread of smart-phones, but if they don't have an apps ecosystem, they're not going to take off. With iOS and Android at roughly 20-30% each, and with WP7 at, what, 0-1%? -- who is going to develop WP7 apps? We might not think about it now, but it took a long time f…

in case you didn't know the WP7 app store has eveolved faster than android and has already passed 8000 apps. It's about the same speed at which iPhone market evolved, except that the iPhone had a huge installed base by the time apps were allowed. It's foolish to underestimate the developer muscle of MSFT.

exactly, just as Android looked to tap into the market of developers who know Java will, WP7 goes for C# developers - of which there are many. Microsoft treat their developers well.

Re: Nokia's Windows Phone 7 concept revealed

#34

Not gonna lie those looks sick. I also really liked using the Windows Phone interface, when I played around with it in a T-Mobile store the other day. I prefer it to Android. I was an iPhone 3G user for a while, then went to the darkside with a MyTouch 3G, then Nexus One, and yesterday I picked up a VZW iPhone 4. I can honestly say that with due time for developers to get up to speed with Windows Phone... it will off…

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Re: Nokia's Windows Phone 7 concept revealed

#35

Not gonna lie those looks sick. I also really liked using the Windows Phone interface, when I played around with it in a T-Mobile store the other day. I prefer it to Android. I was an iPhone 3G user for a while, then went to the darkside with a MyTouch 3G, then Nexus One, and yesterday I picked up a VZW iPhone 4. I can honestly say that with due time for developers to get up to speed with Windows Phone... it will off…

From the front they look like every other iPhone knock off that essentially every OEM is making, right down to the speaker port. The back is oddly shaped, seemingly to the form of the internal components. What exactly is slick about those?

(I'm honestly asking, as this doesn't seem anywhere near the caliber of an iPhone, which is likely in the same price range.)

Re: Nokia's Windows Phone 7 concept revealed

#36
Huh?

Is this thread full of Nokia/Microsoft PR people? Seriously. How does this not look like every other modern Android, WP7, iPhone rip off?

  - Black minimalist screen ✓
  - Horizontal speaker port ✓
  - Buttons on the bottom ✓
  - Cheap plastic case ✓
I don't think this phone could look more generic. Is this the state of the art in phone design outside of Cupertino? Are people's expectations really this low?

I really don't get the appeal of this device from a hardware perspective. The software may be a different story, but the hardware looks is pretty boring.

Re: Nokia's Windows Phone 7 concept revealed

#37
I guess I don't see it. Here are my rough thoughts.

1. Nokia was on the verge of non-existence. Honestly, Meego and Symbian were not going to cut it. Nokia just didn't have the chops to do it and that was obvious.

2. MSFT was aching to get in the game w/ something/someone other than HTC and this was a real opportunity.

3. Nokia hand Android available to it or this partnership w/ MSFT. By choosing MSFT they got cash infusion and also got to outsource dev to MSFT (which I'm assuming from what I read is the arrangement).

So far, so good. Given those parameters it actually seems to make strategic sense for Nokia to choose MSFT and this route. But wait..that isn't all.

5. Who is going to write the apps for this? Had Nokia chosen Android, they would have literally gained hundreds of thousands of apps instantaneously. Does anyone know the number of people writing WP7 apps? It is not a huge number and most of the apps are not good. Sure, it is early and this announcement will likely boost the numbers but still...it isn't android numbers and it certainly isn't iOS numbers.

Given #5 all of the sudden the decision looks quite questionable.

I guess, what I don't see, is who is Nokia really going to call a customer? If Nokia wants to capture the smartphone market, this is just plain dumb. If nokia wants corporate phones, it might be quite smart..being able to replace RIM/Blackberry just about a launch (really, it would be that easy if they focused). If they want to capture Corporate market AND capture ultra cheap entry cell phones....now it sorta makes sense.

Ok...so what am I missing? Anyone know their real strategy?

Re: Nokia's Windows Phone 7 concept revealed

#38
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How did they have this already ready? Was this a previous phone design that they just rendered with Windows Phone 7, or had they been working with Microsoft already?

A few hours on Photoshop and its done. I doubt if this is something real.

Arty: the technicolor phones on show are conceptual devices produced by the two companies - sounds like a case and some graphic design.

Re: Nokia's Windows Phone 7 concept revealed

#39
These look like exceptionally pretty renders - I have the feeling that the final product will look nothing like that. The reason modern smartphones don't have those sleek contours on the back is that a long-running (read: large) battery is a prerequisite. All of the swooping contours in these shots are basically trading hours of battery life for a dramatic look - I'd be surprised if this survives basic testing.
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