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Re: Students defeat new 'Barnacle' parking clamp, skip fines and get free internet

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That's not entrapment. Entrapment is the state coercing someone to do something they would not do under normal circumstances. It sounds to me as if these people are illegally parking under normal circumstances. The rules about curbs, hydrants, driveways, &c are well known and common enough between every state that there is no excuse that they weren't aware this was illegal.

A trap is something easy to get into but hard to get out of. They made the parking rules unclear and never enforced them then cracked down brutally.

Which is exactly why you're able to speed with impunity, even if you receive a ticket for it?

Most places do not make the rules unclear and many rules brought up in the subthread, e.g. hydrants and parking near an intersection, are well known and common among the states.

Look, I'm not saying that basically giving everyone a month with no warnings and then going out in force isn't a crappy thing to do. I'm just saying that that's not entrapment, nor is an an awful thing for the police to do, even if there are nicer ways to do it, e.g. giving notices on windshields for the first week of the semester and afterwards being issuing tickets.

Re: Students defeat new 'Barnacle' parking clamp, skip fines and get free internet

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As someone who commuted to college parking illegally is just something you have to do. I had parking fines I had to pay before receiving my diploma even though I made the grades and such. Parking and universities is a mess.

>parking illegally is just something you have to do driving to college is not something you have to do . it's something you choose to do. parking is a side effect of driving, not a god-given right.

It was probably 30 miles to school. I’m not sure how someone could get there other than driving. There was no public transit.

Re: Students defeat new 'Barnacle' parking clamp, skip fines and get free internet

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Your examples all seem like things that are beneficial to all, and that all should use.

> school buses and the like Not useful to people that live on campus and don't need to travel off-site much. > sporting equipment and facilities Completely useless to a lot of people. I used the swimming pool in college exactly once, during the swimming class/test. I certainly didn't use the sports fields. I used the bowling alleys, but those were paid-to-use and not covered by the sports fee we had to pay. > library…

Better air quality, lower carbon-cost of transport benefit you even if you don't use it. Similarly for sporting facilities in a state with any sponsoring of medical needs (I'm in UK).

For me Library was a primary place to work (prepaid heat and light!), and access books that couldn't be used online or cost too much to have a private copy (or for which it was more economic not to get one, like you only needed it for a day/week) - but that was a while back. I can't really see even the majority of course books being online though, maybe I'm wrong?

Re: Students defeat new 'Barnacle' parking clamp, skip fines and get free internet

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Parking technology must be full of fascinating stories. It's pretty much everyman against the faceless administration. I once parked at a smart meter, but it wouldn't take my coins. I put a note on the windshield, went inside for a short bit and came out to a missing note replaced by a parking ticket. I came to realize that the "smart' meter wasn't registering a car in the spot, so it would just eat the coins. I took…

It depends on how ruthless the city is about parking enforcement. AFAIK Some places have laws against parking at broken meters. Then again some places say it's legal. https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/parking-tickets-bro... Edit: The university I went to gave me parking tickets twice. Once because I forgot to hang my permit and once .. I have no idea why, but they ticketed everyone in the lot lol. Both times w…

> laws against parking at broken meters

that leaves me... speechless.

Re: Students defeat new 'Barnacle' parking clamp, skip fines and get free internet

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It depends on how ruthless the city is about parking enforcement. AFAIK Some places have laws against parking at broken meters. Then again some places say it's legal. https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/parking-tickets-bro... Edit: The university I went to gave me parking tickets twice. Once because I forgot to hang my permit and once .. I have no idea why, but they ticketed everyone in the lot lol. Both times w…

> laws against parking at broken meters that leaves me... speechless.

The idea is that the repair vehicle needs to have it open in order to fix it, but IMO it’s some BS.

Re: Students defeat new 'Barnacle' parking clamp, skip fines and get free internet

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Park legally then. It's easy, and tons of poor people do it every day. It's just a select noisy few who want to park wherever and blame someone else.

Says the person who has always had enough money and has strong opinions about poverty.

Says the person making strong assumptions? Following the law, and not acting like a dick, are choices that are made independent of wealth, period.

Re: Students defeat new 'Barnacle' parking clamp, skip fines and get free internet

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You know how you encourage it? High price on parking, and punishing abusers.

Victorian thought is not dead I see. Well, instead you might incentiveise it through having car pool car parks that are closer to campus, or at least next to a well lit and preferably sheltered area. Then you could publicise the car pool scheme. You could even have a forum for finding other car poopers, and/or an app. Maybe allow people, with their consent, to be matched by approx origin/destination for easier findin…

But GP is correct. They only missed the part where the profits from increased parking fees should be used to either lower tuition, or spent on one of your schemes or public transport infrastructure.

Re: Students defeat new 'Barnacle' parking clamp, skip fines and get free internet

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> laws against parking at broken meters that leaves me... speechless.

The idea is that the repair vehicle needs to have it open in order to fix it, but IMO it’s some BS.

Back in the days of coin meters, civic-minded individuals would inject some two part epoxy in the slot, giving unlimited free parking to everyone. Problem solved (until they made parking at broken meters illegal).

Re: Students defeat new 'Barnacle' parking clamp, skip fines and get free internet

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The problem is not paying for the parking I use. That is an easy problem to solve, as long as the price is "reasonable". The problem I have with parking authorities is fraud. When the meter employee gives me a ticket for a different meter, or when the parking ticket fine is $200 instead of say $30, or when the restrictions are absurd/vague ("You can park here for 2 hours m-f except holidays except 9-11 except in gree…

The other day I went to a concert and parked my car at a parking lot. When the concert ended, of course there were masses of people trying to exit the parking lot. There were only 2 cashiers to pay the parking ticket — no automated machines. So we waited over an hour to pay our ticket. Time that we ended up paying with our ticket (per hour parking). The cashier didn’t want to refund us for the waiting time. If the la…

Complain. Pay by credit card, issue a charge back for “service not rendered”.

Re: Students defeat new 'Barnacle' parking clamp, skip fines and get free internet

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They abandoned it.

the same way the dockless scooter companies abandoned their scooters?

Yes. You can buy dockless scooters from some police auctions.
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