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Re: Show HN: Tired of mobile games with IAP and ads, I made No-Bullshit Games

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Post by StavrosK »

dangoor wrote: post #38
StavrosK wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Clever idea. I'm curious why you decided to allow games with DLC though. That's technically an In-App Purchase. I get it's not a Consumable IAP, but it's still IAP. That's why I called it "No-Bullshit Games" instead of "No-IAP games" :P > Ads you can pay a few bucks to remove That's fine by me. > then a couple of consumables that are optional and you can earn during a game anyway if you're lucky, but can buy more i…

>> then a couple of consumables that are optional and you can earn during a game anyway if you're lucky, but can buy more if you want (it's a push your luck game, so luck is part of the design) > That's where I kind of start to consider the game "bullshit", I want to play and enjoy myself, not have constant FOMO of what could be if only I'd spent some more money. That said, it doesn't sound nearly as annoying as some…

You're exactly right that there's an editorial line, so this list reflects my personal beliefs and classification on BS/noBS. I think cosmetics are fine, since you can fully enjoy the game without them, and if a game ONLY has cosmetics, it can go on the list (there's even a dropdown item for that in the submission form).

Re: Show HN: Tired of mobile games with IAP and ads, I made No-Bullshit Games

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Post by lostgame »

jmuhlich wrote: post #21
tomclive wrote: post #12

Great idea. I really enjoyed Angry Birds when it first came out and when my children asked about to install it on their devices I said this was fine. I couldn't find the original Angry Birds so installed Angry Birds 2. What an awful convoluted mess it was. Instead of a simple, fun physics-based game it's full of lives, spells, bad level design and in-app purchases.

And it flat out refuses to run without an internet connection to fetch ads!

When the recent Sonic the Hedgehog re-release from SEGA did this I just deleted it off my phone. shrugs

Re: Show HN: Tired of mobile games with IAP and ads, I made No-Bullshit Games

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Post by dangoor »

StavrosK wrote: post #41
dangoor wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>> then a couple of consumables that are optional and you can earn during a game anyway if you're lucky, but can buy more if you want (it's a push your luck game, so luck is part of the design) > That's where I kind of start to consider the game "bullshit", I want to play and enjoy myself, not have constant FOMO of what could be if only I'd spent some more money. That said, it doesn't sound nearly as annoying as some…

You're exactly right that there's an editorial line, so this list reflects my personal beliefs and classification on BS/noBS. I think cosmetics are fine, since you can fully enjoy the game without them, and if a game ONLY has cosmetics, it can go on the list (there's even a dropdown item for that in the submission form).

Cool. FWIW, that sounds like a good line between BS/No BS to me!

Re: Show HN: Tired of mobile games with IAP and ads, I made No-Bullshit Games

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Post by jakemal »

SmellyGeekBoy wrote: post #24
tomclive wrote: post #12

Great idea. I really enjoyed Angry Birds when it first came out and when my children asked about to install it on their devices I said this was fine. I couldn't find the original Angry Birds so installed Angry Birds 2. What an awful convoluted mess it was. Instead of a simple, fun physics-based game it's full of lives, spells, bad level design and in-app purchases.

I played the original to death "back in the day" so I'm really sad to hear that they went down this route. Probably also explains why nobody talks about Angry Birds anymore.

There was an Angry Birds movie released within the last couple of years. It's still extremely popular.

Re: Show HN: Tired of mobile games with IAP and ads, I made No-Bullshit Games

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Post by Marsymars »

I like this a lot.

For a few years now I've wanted something like "No-Bullshit Podcasts" which does the same thing - lists podcasts that are either ad-free or that can be made ad-free via purchase, and that don't require a proprietary player.

Re: Show HN: Tired of mobile games with IAP and ads, I made No-Bullshit Games

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Post by neogodless »

I feel dumb so I don't know if it's a UI thing or just my weird brain, but I loaded this page on my phone, on Firefox and and Chrome, and I incorrectly assumed it was just broken. Where was the list of games?!

Finally I read "choose your platform" and realized it was saying that not for adding games or any other reason, but to see one of the lists! D'oh!

Re: Show HN: Tired of mobile games with IAP and ads, I made No-Bullshit Games

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Post by StavrosK »

neogodless wrote: post #46

I feel dumb so I don't know if it's a UI thing or just my weird brain, but I loaded this page on my phone, on Firefox and and Chrome, and I incorrectly assumed it was just broken. Where was the list of games?! Finally I read "choose your platform" and realized it was saying that not for adding games or any other reason, but to see one of the lists! D'oh!

Hmm, I might have to do something about that, yes. Currently it's too much text on that page.

Re: Show HN: Tired of mobile games with IAP and ads, I made No-Bullshit Games

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Post by d4n3 »

Great idea... I don't mind paying for good games, but what i do mind is games that try to squeeze as much money out of you for just playing it, which fits your definition of bullshit games.

So unlockable DLC and removable ads are fine, but endless pay-to-win consumables aren't.

Sorting by number of reviews would be great - it's a better indicator of popularity than the review score

Re: Show HN: Tired of mobile games with IAP and ads, I made No-Bullshit Games

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Post by giarc »

I echo the others here, Thanks! I have young kids and we let them use tablets on long trips, vacations, airplane rides. Finding games for them is impossible. They are too young to understand when characters, levels, items are locked. It seems like every 2 minutes they get stuck on some ad screen with a hidden X. I just want a game that when I pay $4, I get the full game. It doesn't even have to be a big, intensive game. My kids would be happy with a finger painting game, as long as all the colouring sheets and paint brushes are available.
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