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Re: What to do if you’re stopped by the police

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Post by mikorym »

mcny wrote: post #93
shantly wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Guessing there were drugs in one or more pockets.

Never works. I was driving my friend’s car. I had a tire burst on me. I pulled over to the side of the road. Cops showed up in a few minutes and charged me with reckless driving. Made me take three different breathalyzers. I hadn’t been drinking so obviously it showed “well below the legal limit”. But my friend apparently had an empty beer can in the back. You can never say it wasn’t yours, apparently. In any case, p…

Is it illegal to have an empty beer can in your car?

A couple of German exchange students once told me that you can drink in a car while the car is moving as long as the driver doesn't drink anything.

Re: What to do if you’re stopped by the police

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Post by cheez »

CodeAndCuffs wrote: post #17

Former cop here. The article states "You cannot lie to the police". This is, generally, incorrect. Some jurisdictions may have some specific law, but other than certain exceptions, lying has no general consequence. If it did, there would be a lot more charges against pretty much everyone who has been arrested. In my experience, people will lie about stuff that's not even relevant, or helpful to them. Exceptions inclu…

You're not the cops I've dealt with but thanks for being good sports when I go hard on you guys when you falsely arrest me and stuff. Eventually the realization dawns that I am rich and will fight back (I don't look it, drive an old car, wear old clothes) and magically the charges go away. Occasionally, I have to prove one of you perjured yourself.

Re: What to do if you’re stopped by the police

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Post by mirimir »

mcny wrote: post #93
shantly wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Guessing there were drugs in one or more pockets.

Never works. I was driving my friend’s car. I had a tire burst on me. I pulled over to the side of the road. Cops showed up in a few minutes and charged me with reckless driving. Made me take three different breathalyzers. I hadn’t been drinking so obviously it showed “well below the legal limit”. But my friend apparently had an empty beer can in the back. You can never say it wasn’t yours, apparently. In any case, p…

Hitching in the 80s, I got picked up by this guy who was drinking beer while driving. That worried me some. But I was shocked when he threw the empty out the window. And when I commented on it, he pointed out that littering was the safest option.

Re: What to do if you’re stopped by the police

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Post by dredmorbius »

throwaway17_17 wrote: post #86
dredmorbius wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does standing up for your rights help or hurt? That's the salient question. I don't doubt your confidence, and, likely, experience. Only the specific strategy as outlined in this thread and article.

I would always encourage the exercise of rights, particularly against searches (as the parent mentioned). However, the refusal to search often, I hesitate to say always, but I can’t think any outstanding examples in my experience where a refusal to search did not automatically result in the search happening. And the results of that search in many cases will turn up enough ‘suspicion’ for the officer to arrest for som…

Thanks.

I've had ... different ... experiences, though could well see others not.

Re: What to do if you’re stopped by the police

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Post by mirimir »

mikorym wrote: post #101
mcny wrote: post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Never works. I was driving my friend’s car. I had a tire burst on me. I pulled over to the side of the road. Cops showed up in a few minutes and charged me with reckless driving. Made me take three different breathalyzers. I hadn’t been drinking so obviously it showed “well below the legal limit”. But my friend apparently had an empty beer can in the back. You can never say it wasn’t yours, apparently. In any case, p…

Is it illegal to have an empty beer can in your car? A couple of German exchange students once told me that you can drink in a car while the car is moving as long as the driver doesn't drink anything.

In the US, it is.

Re: What to do if you’re stopped by the police

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Post by Hydraulix989 »

chadcmulligan wrote: post #79

So on the hacker news front page today: Colleges are closing because they're to expensive What to do if you're stopped by police The Top 10 books include 1984 and Fahrenheit 451 all we need is something about medical insurance sending people broke and the ever present incarceration rate. You guys should really fix this (not an American), its not that hard.

We had an article about Debitor’s Prison existing again yesterday too.

Re: What to do if you’re stopped by the police

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Post by bitexploder »

slumdev wrote: post #11

We live in a police state. If you're not an attorney (or as well versed in law as the attorney in the video), your best bet is usually to be friendly and comply. You comply because they're allowed to lie to you, they're allowed to search you with very little reason, and they're allowed to arrest you using circumstances and behaviors that they knowingly and purposefully antagonize out of you. And this is how freedom d…

Letting the search happens only makes it worse. Force them to have probable cause or violate your rights. Know your basic rights and assert them. Not doing so only helps the police state.

Re: What to do if you’re stopped by the police

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Post by kjs3 »

CodeAndCuffs wrote: post #17

Former cop here. The article states "You cannot lie to the police". This is, generally, incorrect. Some jurisdictions may have some specific law, but other than certain exceptions, lying has no general consequence. If it did, there would be a lot more charges against pretty much everyone who has been arrested. In my experience, people will lie about stuff that's not even relevant, or helpful to them. Exceptions inclu…

My attorney has advised me (over social beers, not while preparing me for a court appearance :-) ) that while I can lie to the police, if I do and the prosecution can prove it, they will beat me like a drum with the fact I lied throughout any prosecution. Basically, there are no direct consequences, but if things get hairy, there can be indirect consequences.

Re: What to do if you’re stopped by the police

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Post by ntr-- »

thrower123 wrote: post #48
VitoVan wrote: post #2

I really appreciate something more like this, with more countries included other than USA, like: India / China / Russia

A crash course on whether to offer a bribe, how much is customary, and the manner in which such an offering is made really ought to be included with the SkyMall magazine.

here's one

http://www.whoismcafee.com/the-travel-guide/

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