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The California almond industry is placing a huge strain on bees

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Re: The California almond industry is placing a huge strain on bees

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Can we stop labeling everything evil? It works or it doesn't. If almonds are fundamentally unsustainable at scale, fine. Say that. This is not a children's fairy tale with an evil ogre and a fair prince. Let's stop casting everything as good v. evil. Works or doesn't work is sufficient.

Whatever the ultimate effects are, I highly doubt that almond farmers are sinister, malevolent beings who want to destroy humanity. If there's a better way they can do what they do, I'm sure they'll be happy to do it.

Re: The California almond industry is placing a huge strain on bees

#13
I'm confused about beekeepers complaining about the issue in the article. They can refuse to deal with almond farms if they really care about the bees. This seems like "I care about bees dying, but not enough to stop it". Are there no alternatives in farms?

Re: The California almond industry is placing a huge strain on bees

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post #12

Can we stop labeling everything evil? It works or it doesn't. If almonds are fundamentally unsustainable at scale, fine. Say that. This is not a children's fairy tale with an evil ogre and a fair prince. Let's stop casting everything as good v. evil. Works or doesn't work is sufficient. Whatever the ultimate effects are, I highly doubt that almond farmers are sinister, malevolent beings who want to destroy humanity.…

“Work or doesn’t work” is as manichean of a binary as “good or evil”.

Re: The California almond industry is placing a huge strain on bees

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The explosion of almond and soy milk among WASPy people of European extraction is one of the more bizarre trends I've seen in my short lifetime. Twenty-five years ago it was passing strange to see anyone not drink real milk, and they fed us at least a quart of it every day at school.

It just means that lactose intolerance is now recognised and accommodated. The body produces less of the enzyme (lactase) needed to break down lactose as we age, with the result that it ferments in the gut, producing gas. Undigested lactose reaches the outlet as a liquid. I'd rather be thought strange than be farting and squirting out cow nipple juice.

Re: The California almond industry is placing a huge strain on bees

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I like Oat Milk as a good substitute for almond, cashew, or macadamia nut milk. I think Oak Milk requires fewer resources than tree nuts.

I find Oat Milk is also the most delicious.

I'm currently addicted to an oatmilk coldbrew latte and I just loove it.

Re: The California almond industry is placing a huge strain on bees

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I like Oat Milk as a good substitute for almond, cashew, or macadamia nut milk. I think Oak Milk requires fewer resources than tree nuts.

I've been meaning to try oat milk. Cow milk upsets my digestion but I also have a tree nut allergy.

Re: The California almond industry is placing a huge strain on bees

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The explosion of almond and soy milk among WASPy people of European extraction is one of the more bizarre trends I've seen in my short lifetime. Twenty-five years ago it was passing strange to see anyone not drink real milk, and they fed us at least a quart of it every day at school.

It just means that lactose intolerance is now recognised and accommodated. The body produces less of the enzyme (lactase) needed to break down lactose as we age, with the result that it ferments in the gut, producing gas. Undigested lactose reaches the outlet as a liquid. I'd rather be thought strange than be farting and squirting out cow nipple juice.

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Re: The California almond industry is placing a huge strain on bees

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If the key impact is declining bee populations, it would seem that the current ecology of almond growing is unsustainable. But that should give growers an acute incentive to invest in bee populations, lest bees shoot up in price and wreck the economics of their orchards. If growers aren’t doing this already, why aren’t they?
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