Unemployment only measures persons in the workforce, not those who never had a job. Thus, the stats are further less rosy.
That is why we also track the labor force participation rate [0]. [0]: https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/CIVPART
Low unemployment isn’t worth much if the jobs barely pay
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#12Totally disagree. It's 1000000 times better than without a job, a job at least helps mental status and boost some esteem. Also it's 1000000000000 times better than living on welfare or food stamps. for himself/herself and for the society.
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#13Re: Low unemployment isn’t worth much if the jobs barely pay
#14Unemployment only measures persons in the workforce, not those who never had a job. Thus, the stats are further less rosy.
That is why we also track the labor force participation rate [0]. [0]: https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/CIVPART
Re: Low unemployment isn’t worth much if the jobs barely pay
#15I do not agree with that, having a job is always a good thing for mental health. It is always better than staying at home doing nothing.
Re: Low unemployment isn’t worth much if the jobs barely pay
#16Totally disagree. It's 1000000 times better than without a job, a job at least helps mental status and boost some esteem. Also it's 1000000000000 times better than living on welfare or food stamps. for himself/herself and for the society.
I think the point of the article is that relying on low unemployment as a main proxy of the health of the economy and how the workforce is doing overall, while pushing economic policies that try to mainly optimize that number, misses some pretty big points.
Re: Low unemployment isn’t worth much if the jobs barely pay
#17Totally disagree. It's 1000000 times better than without a job, a job at least helps mental status and boost some esteem. Also it's 1000000000000 times better than living on welfare or food stamps. for himself/herself and for the society.
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#18I do not agree with that, having a job is always a good thing for mental health. It is always better than staying at home doing nothing.
Having work one finds valuable is. Having a shitty mind numbing job is hell. Adam Smith wrote about it (paraphrasing) extreme division of labor will create servile, ignorant humans. IMO billionaires suffer from it too. Offloading so much real doing and learning while existing in the context of abstract decision maker. You think Bezos can do much more than validate or demean people around him? Bet he can barely rotate…
Re: Low unemployment isn’t worth much if the jobs barely pay
#19Totally disagree. It's 1000000 times better than without a job, a job at least helps mental status and boost some esteem. Also it's 1000000000000 times better than living on welfare or food stamps. for himself/herself and for the society.
Not always. Being in one of these low end jobs tends to beget staying in that low end job longer, making it more difficult to have the time to invest in getting a better job. Numerous studies have shown that giving people a bigger safety net may make them stay unemployed longer, but when they do get a job they end up making much more money and being happier overall.
Re: Low unemployment isn’t worth much if the jobs barely pay
#20I do not agree with that, having a job is always a good thing for mental health. It is always better than staying at home doing nothing.
Meaningful work, or contributing to the wellbeing of those around you -- that would be a worthwhile goal. Suffering just so your family isn't hungry is a harder sell.
Inevitably, someone will say they should just learn skills from the internet to improve their lot, and perhaps some will. I think most people on HN (especially me) are so insulated from the reality of working poverty that we just look for technical solutions. I wish there were some.