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Re: Jeffrey Epstein and MIT: FAQs

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Post by celticmusic »

AndrewBissell wrote: post #323
celticmusic wrote: post #263

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seriously. When I was young I used to wonder how in the hell the Salem Witch Trials ever happened. It boggled my mind. I don't wonder about how it happened anymore, I've seen it so many times it's old hat now. I mean what next, anyone who takes a jet with Bill Clinton is having sex with an intern?

Yes, imagine thinking that people who rode on a jet where children were routinely raped, or who associated with a man convicted of soliciting underaged girls for prostitution, might have been involved or known about it themselves! It's exactly the same thing as 17th century hysterics who believed women were possessed by literal demons.

I know!

children are raped in your country or state, therefore you must be a child rapist!

Lets define the exact distance you must be away from an incident of child rape before association stops convicting you (and it instead reverts back to your actions).

Is it 100 yards?!? Does that mean all of Jeffrey Dahlmers neihbors are rapist cannibals?!?

Re: Jeffrey Epstein and MIT: FAQs

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Post by pen2l »

tptacek wrote: post #183
zamalek wrote: post #30

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Irrespective of the trueness or falseness of this, it is completely off-topic.

This comment is downvoted, but shouldn't be: "Epstein didn't kill himself" clearly is off-topic for the thread, and the resulting "discussion" ate the whole thread. 'zamalek is absolutely right.

What's wrong with being a little bit off-topic every now and then as long as it's somewhat interesting?

For a lot of us, HN is a big part of our lives, it's our water-cooler place where we come to chat and wind down. I was myself curious to hear what folks here thought of the "Epstein didn't kill himself" trope.

Re: Jeffrey Epstein and MIT: FAQs

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Post by celticmusic »

malvosenior wrote: post #320
celticmusic wrote: post #318

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I really don't know how you live your life acting like that. Is it your belief that response somehow changed the point? Or maybe you think that response changed human nature? That somehow reacting in that manner changes mankind such that no one would ever be flattered that a rich and powerful person thinks they're interesting enough to have lunch with. What about their wives? Are the wives pedophiles too? They someti…

There's evidence of people being aware of Epstein's predilections. He was hardly secretive about it: https://www.motherjones.com/crime-justice/2019/08/jeffrey-ep... > There were lavish dinner parties with the likes of Steven Pinker and Stephen Jay Gould during which Epstein would ask provocatively elementary questions like “What is gravity?” If the conversation drifted beyond his interests, Epstein was known to inter…

this does not make someone a pedophile. It probably makes them morally corrupt, but not a pedophile.

Re: Jeffrey Epstein and MIT: FAQs

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Post by jacquesm »

Waterluvian wrote: post #115
malvosenior wrote: post #110

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Epstein's was the first suicide in MCC in 21 years: https://nypost.com/2019/08/10/suicide-supposedly-nearly-impo...

Not asking for pieces of evidence. I'm asking for a well-produced case linking lots of evidence.

What point is there to ask for something that you know does not exist?

Re: Jeffrey Epstein and MIT: FAQs

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Post by malvosenior »

celticmusic wrote: post #333
malvosenior wrote: post #320

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There's evidence of people being aware of Epstein's predilections. He was hardly secretive about it: https://www.motherjones.com/crime-justice/2019/08/jeffrey-ep... > There were lavish dinner parties with the likes of Steven Pinker and Stephen Jay Gould during which Epstein would ask provocatively elementary questions like “What is gravity?” If the conversation drifted beyond his interests, Epstein was known to inter…

this does not make someone a pedophile. It probably makes them morally corrupt, but not a pedophile.

That's just one small example. The other big one is that he had underage girls around him all the time. That makes him a pedophile.

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Post by ryacko »

malvosenior wrote: post #335
celticmusic wrote: post #333

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this does not make someone a pedophile. It probably makes them morally corrupt, but not a pedophile.

That's just one small example. The other big one is that he had underage girls around him all the time. That makes him a pedophile.

You're right, Epstein was engaged in a platonic mentoring relationship with scandalously young women who by many metrics were also good looking.

Re: Jeffrey Epstein and MIT: FAQs

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Post by ww520 »

dguaraglia wrote: post #327
ww520 wrote: post #212

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So the Russian collusion conspiracy is a "conservative" bias. That's pretty interesting.

I don't want to use HN to discuss politics, but notice that the 'Russian collusion conspiracy' is not a conspiracy theory . Donald Trump Jr himself published the emails setting up a meeting with a Russian lawyer which - he admitted - was supposed to yield information that'd help his father in the election. That makes it the very definition of a real conspiracy, right?

Isn’t that the epitome of starting a conspiracy based on flimsy accusation? And the conspiracy kept alive for 2 years, by whom?

Re: Jeffrey Epstein and MIT: FAQs

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Post by ehsankia »

shadowgovt wrote: post #185
ehsankia wrote: post #181

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That's assuming someone hasn't already gone and taken out whatever proof there was from his island. There have been drone footage taken by people showing how things were taken from his mansion. https://www.redstate.com/brandon_morse/2019/08/13/computer-r...

The FBI took evidence into custody. Beyond that, I wouldn't trust RedState's analysis without independent confirmation items are missing.

I wouldn't trust it as proof, I'm just saying, there wasn't anything stopping people from taking away incriminating evidence before the FBI had a chance to get a warrant.

Re: Jeffrey Epstein and MIT: FAQs

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Post by dguaraglia »

ww520 wrote: post #337
dguaraglia wrote: post #327

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't want to use HN to discuss politics, but notice that the 'Russian collusion conspiracy' is not a conspiracy theory . Donald Trump Jr himself published the emails setting up a meeting with a Russian lawyer which - he admitted - was supposed to yield information that'd help his father in the election. That makes it the very definition of a real conspiracy, right?

Isn’t that the epitome of starting a conspiracy based on flimsy accusation? And the conspiracy kept alive for 2 years, by whom?

Hm... not sure what you are trying to say. What flimsy accusation? Donald Trump Jr released the emails himself on Twitter? What in that is a 'flimsy accusation'?

Re: Jeffrey Epstein and MIT: FAQs

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Post by ghaff »

rsfinn wrote: post #253
ghaff wrote: post #192

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Although the building number (mostly) doesn’t tell you much about the location except approximately.

Not too approximately: Even numbered buildings are to the east of the central grassy plaza (Killian Court), and odd numbered buildings to the west; the numbers tend to increase moving away from the river. Additionally, buildings outside the main cluster have a cardinal direction prefix (W/NW/N/NE/E) that helps locate them. " rel="nofollow">http://whereis.mit.edu> (I know you know all that; I'm adding context for the…

I have to admit I never noticed the even/odd rule. Maybe I'd have found Building 2 without having to look it up the other day :-)
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