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In Silicon Valley, some men say cosmetic procedures are essential to a career

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ukyrgf wrote: post #131
jelliclesfarm wrote: post #129

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https://news.yahoo.com/men-paying-76-000-limb-155514396.html : just read this..what a coincidence! [..] Some men and a few women are getting plastic surgery to lengthen their limbs and grow up to six inches taller. Dr. Kevin Debiparshad, founding surgeon at The LimbplastX Institute in Las Vegas, Nevada, has performed this procedure on more than 30 people since opening his practice in 2018. The two-hour, $76,000 proce…

Reminded me of https://jezebel.com/stories-about-my-brother-1835651181

Very sad. I am going to say something here against my better judgement.

I have a genetic condition that puts me at a higher risk for DVT. It’s a not uncommon mutation called Factor V Leiden. I saw it in my 23 and me report that I ordered when 23andMe just got started. We are talking over a decade ago. There were a lot more reports than what’s given out now.

I had to stop my doctors from prescribing meds and procedures because of the genetic report. I also took a definitive test that mentions the mutation in my permanent record so it is considered in the future prescriptions and I suspect this would be useful as I get older.

This is where genetic tests like 23andMe can be useful. It’s not definitive but it would help to determine how to steer your health future.

Having said that, privacy trumps. I do not approve of sharing personal information by companies like 23andMe and esp to drug companies and insurance companies.

Also. These reports are not infallible. They keep trying to connect me with fifth cousins with whom I have less in common than I do with fruit flies. They also seem to think that I have Finnish ancestors when I can trace back my ancestry to south India for the past few centuries. It can be an imperfect ‘science’.

Circling back, this young man probably could have benefitted from a genetic screening.

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Post by oppositelock »

ncr100 wrote: post #139
oppositelock wrote: post #19

Other commenters may be dismissing this article as obvious, but silicon valley does have a problem, particularly in young, hip startups. These companies want to hire young, hip people, and when products being produced are very vague with no clear market, then things like image matter a lot. Juicero, comes to mind. That's fine, you don't have to work there. However, as you get older, develop wrinkles and grey hair, th…

> "do you feel you still have relevant knowledge", or "we do things differently than in your day", or "do you think you can work in a fast paced environment", This is illegal age discrimination, in my opinion. Consider suing them.

Suing is expensive, and time consuming, and stressful. It's best to move on to someplace without their attitude problem.

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Post by bb88 »

catalogia wrote: post #56
bb88 wrote: post #28

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One theory is that good looking software engineers aren't software engineers for very long. Why would you get paid shit wages when you can be a VP of telling people what to do? Call it the "jock-ification" of the tech world. It was bad enough when they were in high school, now they've infiltrated the tech world.

> "Call it the "jock-ification" of the tech world. It was bad enough when they were in high school, now they've infiltrated the tech world." The "jock/nerd dichotomy" is a dumb harmful stereotype used by lazy hollywood and television writers. Many of the smartest people I've ever known were also the most athletic. There is NO inverse relationship between physical fitness and intelligence. If anything, there is a posi…

> Many of the smartest people I've ever known were also the most athletic.

Many of the prettiest/handsomest people I've met were the dumbest. The more likely they are to seek popularity (think "taste-makers") as a source of income, the less likely they are to have any sort of intellectual curiosity.

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Post by jelliclesfarm »

sokoloff wrote: post #137
jelliclesfarm wrote: post #133

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Are you saying penile enhancement and size and performance doesn’t have an affect on males? Curious female minds want to know.. I have always wanted to objectify men. I struggle to choose between their looks or bank balance or penis size. That’s why men in the past wore cod pieces. I would like it back please..

If my penis ever makes an appearance in the workplace, something has gone terrifically wrong.

I notice that you said ‘terrifically’ and not ‘terrribly’.

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Post by Diederich »

jelliclesfarm wrote: post #133
Diederich wrote: post #85

I'm older than the person mentioned at the top of this article, and I've made no efforts to hide it. I've been in the tech industry for about 27 years now, and silicon valley for the last 11. In silicon valley, I've worked at multiple startups, as well as two 'FAANG' companies. My comp has always been very good, and I've not detected even one little hint of 'ageism' at work. In fact, my career and current work enviro…

Are you saying penile enhancement and size and performance doesn’t have an affect on males? Curious female minds want to know.. I have always wanted to objectify men. I struggle to choose between their looks or bank balance or penis size. That’s why men in the past wore cod pieces. I would like it back please..

> Curious female minds want to know..

Well, my wife has been quite happy with my unmodified parts for 21 years now, so I don't really know one way or another. (:

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Post by kthejoker2 »

teh_infallible wrote: post #124
virtuous_signal wrote: post #46

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I wonder how this all fits in with the recent trend towards Stoicism in Silicon Valley: From Epictetus, a father of Stoicism >1. Some things are in our control and others not. Things in our control are opinion, pursuit, desire, aversion, and, in a word, whatever are our own actions. Things not in our control are body, property, reputation, command, and, in one word, whatever are not our own actions. >The things in ou…

It seems rather disempowering to include “body” in the list of things not under your control. That control is not complete, but it exists to an extent.

He definitely is referring more to things like disabilities and diseases, not necessarily fitness and beauty.

But to his point more generally: if you can control it, do so. If you cannot, don't pretend that you can.

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Post by jelliclesfarm »

Diederich wrote: post #146
jelliclesfarm wrote: post #133

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Are you saying penile enhancement and size and performance doesn’t have an affect on males? Curious female minds want to know.. I have always wanted to objectify men. I struggle to choose between their looks or bank balance or penis size. That’s why men in the past wore cod pieces. I would like it back please..

> Curious female minds want to know.. Well, my wife has been quite happy with my unmodified parts for 21 years now, so I don't really know one way or another. (:

She wouldn’t tell you. Have you checked the chatter with her friends?

Also: wondering if men talk to each other about their bodies and penii.

Peacocks use their tails and dance. Apes and big cats have their own male language. What do men do now?

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Post by smolder »

malux85 wrote: post #42
yters wrote: post #37

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Yes, totally. I notice a significant difference in how I'm treated, and even perceived technical proficiency, based on whether I'm in shape or not. Being well groomed also helps, but being in shape with sharply defined facial features seems the most significant thing. Losing the glasses and wearing contacts helps, too. OTOH, if I want to get by based on actual technical merits instead of outward attractiveness, then…

It not totally superficial - a good haircut, shaved face, groomed nose hair, groomed ear hair, nice, clean ironed clothes and good shoes is signalling - it’s saying “All the little things have been dealt with and I have attention to detail - and I am also wise enough to acknowledge that this is signalling and I’m willing to play the game”

The pragmatism of investing in the superficial to satisfy other people's expectations does not make it less superficial.

We waste an absurd amount of time fretting over image collectively for one reason: to satisfy each others need to judge things by their covers --IOW, to satisfy each others need to make flawed judgements.

It's wise for one person to care about their image, but not for a whole group of people to gatekeep the way we do based on aesthetics. The relevance of a suit and tie is self perpetuating, something like "I got hazed when I joined this fraternity, so the new recruits should get hazed, too."

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Post by Diederich »

jelliclesfarm wrote: post #148
Diederich wrote: post #146

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> Curious female minds want to know.. Well, my wife has been quite happy with my unmodified parts for 21 years now, so I don't really know one way or another. (:

She wouldn’t tell you. Have you checked the chatter with her friends? Also: wondering if men talk to each other about their bodies and penii. Peacocks use their tails and dance. Apes and big cats have their own male language. What do men do now?

> She wouldn’t tell you.

Oh, I suspect she would!

> wondering if men talk to each other about their bodies and penii

Not that I've seen, but I suspect my experience is pretty far from typical.

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