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Re: Things that I think will be important in the next decade

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Post by nickbauman »

creaghpatr wrote: post #302
Ensorceled wrote: post #286

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I understand what you are saying, but this is a mainstream story, easily searchable with DDG from hints in the comment, covered by both Washington Post and New York Times as well as being splashed all over Business Insider, Mashable, The Verge, etc. etc. This is not the comment to be fighting this battle with.

The first part of the comment is true, but then unfortunately used to prop up a false claim: >All the while we've learned that they have utterly sold the company to international electioneers. This is disinformation, laundered with the trust of the first comment.

Have you read the news today, oh boy?

Facebook is behind getting the highest bidders elected all around the world.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2017-12-21/inside-th...

Re: Things that I think will be important in the next decade

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Post by jophde »

polycaster wrote: post #268
jophde wrote: post #69

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Personally I have been moved to only use a desktop computer with Linux on it and switched to a Go Flip 3 dumb phone. It's helped my sanity quite a bit. I'm convinced tech peaked in 90s and the desktop dream was the best one.

Enthused by your comment I visited the vendor's website just to be greeted with: "GO FLIP 3, with KaiOS 2.5, comes with Google Assistant to help you get things done like book appointments, make phone calls, and find answers on the go using just your voice." [1] Resistance is futile. [1] https://us.alcatelmobile.com/alcatel-go-flip-3/

Yea I know... sadly its the best option right now.

Re: Things that I think will be important in the next decade

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Post by kwonkicker »

Nextgrid wrote: post #272
cmdshiftf4 wrote: post #37

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>Advertising as we know it is well and truly dead Based on what? More people are spending more money online than ever, the holidays alone in 2019 broke records at an increase of 3.4% over the previous year's sales [0]. That is on top of an increase of 2.8% the previous year, something which was heralded as a disappointment [1]. Given the above, people are clearly being guided what to buy and where to buy it, so how c…

People are creeped out and think phones are listening to them, privacy regulations around the world (GDPR and the California one) are making it very hard to do targeted ads, etc.

Nobody thinks that. Just a handful of loud ones. Look what happened after Snowden. Did people start spending less time using their phones? The biggest step they took was covering their webcams via tape. Nobody cares that they are being watched as long as it doesnt make the news.

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Post by steve76 »

nikolay wrote: post #165
bitexploder wrote: post #160

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I did have a hard time taking any of what he wrote seriously. It was not thought provoking for me and I felt it wasn’t deep or interesting. It’s interesting in the sense that it is useful to know where FB may be headed, but when I think of Facebook all I see is another advertising company looking for more ways to put ads in front of captive eyeballs.

One thing I can't understand is why Facebook is still around. But, at the same time, Twitter is still around, too. I guess people got tired switching platforms.

Replaces the phone book?

If I knew that, I really wish I didn't do stuff to get banned!

Nothing really bad. More clownish than anything.

Re: Things that I think will be important in the next decade

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Post by arbitrary_name »

Ensorceled wrote: post #286
cheschire wrote: post #198

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Citations to your references would be appreciated. It's the first step to overcoming the state of internet disinformation, as well as helping society overcome the fear of missing out just because someone doesn't already know your references.

I understand what you are saying, but this is a mainstream story, easily searchable with DDG from hints in the comment, covered by both Washington Post and New York Times as well as being splashed all over Business Insider, Mashable, The Verge, etc. etc. This is not the comment to be fighting this battle with.

This became the comment to be fighting with - why write two lines of text instead of just providing the goddamn link???

Re: Things that I think will be important in the next decade

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Post by Ensorceled »

mistermann wrote: post #319
Ensorceled wrote: post #304

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I wasn't agreeing with the original claim, though it's probably somewhat accurate, nor that this news item supports that claim. Just disputing that a citation was required for that claim in this forum.

> Just disputing that a citation was required for that claim in this forum. The ask was: "Citations to your references would be appreciated ." It's true that a citation is not needed, but including one adds value , in that it increases efficiency.

Curious what wording you would have liked from me here?

> Just disputing that a citation was appreciated for that claim in this forum.

There is no word to replace required that wouldn't be open to your complaint; e.g. needed, necessary,

Yes, a citation would always be appreciated, but it's gate keeping to ask people to always provide citations when not truly necessary.

Re: Things that I think will be important in the next decade

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Post by saq7 »

arminiusreturns wrote: post #305

Ignoring his ramblings, but saying what I think will be important: Control. The problem with technological advances today aren't with the tech itself, it's that the burst of consumer users allowed people like apple to turn computing into a user prison where the user has no control. This then set a standard, and many people have grown up without ever using a free and open source piece of software. So AR and VR and AI…

The dream of open source isn't any closer to being realized than it has ever been. Open source enthusiasts tend to overlook the fact that most people don't want control. Control is difficult to handle and requires a lot more energy and effort than ceding the control to another entity.

This isn't strictly a terrible thing. Anyone who has chosen to share their life with a partner gets that it is a lot easier if you divide up control of different aspects of your life among each other.

The problem is - as a society in general, and as tech consumers in particular, who should we cede the control to and how should the controllers be held accountable?

These are the same problems societies have faced for millennia, and now that newly emerging tech can operate at the scale of society in a couple of years, it is unreasonable to expect that billions of people adopt the libertarian mindset when it comes to tech alone.

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Post by Ensorceled »

arbitrary_name wrote: post #325
Ensorceled wrote: post #286

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I understand what you are saying, but this is a mainstream story, easily searchable with DDG from hints in the comment, covered by both Washington Post and New York Times as well as being splashed all over Business Insider, Mashable, The Verge, etc. etc. This is not the comment to be fighting this battle with.

This became the comment to be fighting with - why write two lines of text instead of just providing the goddamn link???

Because I don't like gate keeping or tone policing.

I'm sorry we didn't participate in this conversation in the manner you wanted us to.

Re: Things that I think will be important in the next decade

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Post by titzer »

Hi Mark,

In the next decade I don't want to give you any money and I don't want you to know anything about me. Also my friends, family, likes, dislikes, my appearance, what my voice sounds like, or what I'm susceptible to buying. You have no right to this data and I want you to stop trying to get it. Kind of like what was absolutely normal in the 1990s or earlier, where it would have been impossible to know such things without literally following people around 24/7--you know, the kind of stalker behavior that would end up with me getting a restraining order against you. Kind of like before your insatiable and frightening lust to know everything about people drove you to build a surveillance panopticon designed for one purpose: to make you and your ilk some of the richest people in the world.

Please stop trying to sell access to my eyeballs.

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