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The Unstoppable Rise of Sci-Hub (2019)

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Re: The Unstoppable Rise of Sci-Hub (2019)

#171
Note that the article bends over backwards to underline the fact that Sci-Hub operates illegally. Although copyright infringement does occur, this is not true for all cases, i.e. Sci-Hub is not comparable to the Napster of old or lib-gen.

This is because some of the research (actually I would wager that at least >half, but don't have any figures to back this claim), is supported by public funds and hence should, by definition, not be copyrightable

Re: The Unstoppable Rise of Sci-Hub (2019)

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I am part of a well-funded university, so I have access to all the papers without using Sci-Hub. Nevertheless, I prefer this platform because I disagree with the publishing model of most publishers. Let's not get into the details here, but there is all kinds of shoddy editorship happening all over the place---I have seen at least one blatant case of plagiarism in an Elsevier journal: no one cares. I have experienced…

> Thus, I disagree with the article: the single minimalist interface is definitely something that contributes to Sci-Hub's popularity. I'm trying to understand what you disagree with in the article. If anything, it complements sci-hub's "alleged seamlessness."

I think the disagreement is with this claim from the article (2nd to last paragraph):

Sci-Hub, more so than RG, therefore seems to have a greater potential for disrupting the current order of things and poses a significant threat to publishers and librarians, who cling to the mistaken belief that the key to Sci-Hub’s success is its alleged seamlessness (a single sign-on), which if they can replicate will go away.

The author is arguing that seamlessness is not Sci-Hub's only advantage versus traditional channels, but that "Much of the growth of Sci-Hub is therefore ideological", "publishers are seen as the enemy, whose greediness erects unnecessary barriers, thereby obstructing the advancement of science" and that "Sci-Hub is seen as a ‘Robin Hood’ figure"

Re: The Unstoppable Rise of Sci-Hub (2019)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am brazillian. Here people BUY pirated stuff, sometimes more expensive than the original. The reason is convenience and good service. When you buy pirated software and games from the street dealer, you get: often, better support than the publisher (specially for popular software, you ask him what is bothering you, he probably memorized the solution and tells you, while publisher support often is completely null, Go…

Ok you might want to watch this short documentary. Your fun 'pirated' games and software with 'better support' might cost you dearly when your daughter or your girlfriend/wife gets filmed by a hacker, using your own webcam. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFS3p0emftw - "Security awareness: Filmmaker explores RAT malware, buys access to random PCs for just 15 cents a piece - made short film about his experience" Movie…

I do not pirate anything anymore, but I have covered my webcam with tape for many years.

I also don't have a daughter, but I am Brazilian. Just adding a data point.

Re: The Unstoppable Rise of Sci-Hub (2019)

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> I have a PhD in physics. I have zero problem with anyone downloading any of my papers from scihub. Out of curiosity: why don't you just host your papers on your website then - or, if you do, why don't you think it's enough?

Im not sure if it's legally flawless to upload the published journal article to your Website and open it up to the public. As far as i know, you're only allowed to pass it on a personal, per-request basis. This explicitly refers to the final peer reviewed article and not to the manuscript, which can make a great difference.

Many publishers explicitly allow you to post your own articles on your personal/professional website. Some only allow "preprint" form and not the published version.

Re: The Unstoppable Rise of Sci-Hub (2019)

#176
If I were a foreign government looking to get insight into classified research, Sci-Hub plus a targeted PDF exploit on a small set of domain-specific papers would definitely be high on my list of targets. Cycling through so many different domain names and TLDs makes it easy to spin up a clone that _largely_ forwards to the real one but gives you the ability to return some compromised papers.

I love sci-hub and have often used it, but the above idea has always been rattling around in my head and gives me pause.

Re: The Unstoppable Rise of Sci-Hub (2019)

#177

I am part of a well-funded university, so I have access to all the papers without using Sci-Hub. Nevertheless, I prefer this platform because I disagree with the publishing model of most publishers. Let's not get into the details here, but there is all kinds of shoddy editorship happening all over the place---I have seen at least one blatant case of plagiarism in an Elsevier journal: no one cares. I have experienced…

The only feature I miss in sci-hub is going from a doi to a BibTex file for the citation.

Re: The Unstoppable Rise of Sci-Hub (2019)

#178

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're still providing a valuable service for free. Why can't everyone get paid?

Reviewers are getting paid from the university, as are the paper authors. The problem is that the journals exploit the taxpayers and grant providers.

Not all reviewers even work for universities. Some of us are in industry, and our companies certainly don't pay us to anonymously review scientific papers.

Re: The Unstoppable Rise of Sci-Hub (2019)

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post #155

I am part of a well-funded university, so I have access to all the papers without using Sci-Hub. Nevertheless, I prefer this platform because I disagree with the publishing model of most publishers. Let's not get into the details here, but there is all kinds of shoddy editorship happening all over the place---I have seen at least one blatant case of plagiarism in an Elsevier journal: no one cares. I have experienced…

> I am part of a well-funded university, so I have access to all the papers without using Sci-Hub. I don't know how well funded your university is—some are so much so as to make the caveat I'm about to mention a bit silly—but, for many reasonably funded universities, a statement like yours has to be qualified with "I have access for now …". Publishers can, and do, up their prices unreasonably at any time, and, at my…

Absolutely true! I just wanted to add this caveat because I am fully aware that Sci-Hub solves a _different_ problem for me than it solves for other people. The idea of being at the mercy of a publisher is quite problematic, though. One can but hope that the lawyers of our unis are negotiating with a severability clause to ensure that the access to _existing_ articles will not be impeded by future negotiations.

(I can sort of see the idea of making a price grab and then not having access to future articles, but having _no_ access even to past articles is a horror scenario)

Re: The Unstoppable Rise of Sci-Hub (2019)

#180

Sci-Hub and Library Genesis are indispensable. What Alexandra has basically done is start a revolution. Nothing can stop an idea whose time has come. I would like to donate towards their efforts, too sad they accept only bitcoins.

I don't understand. There are plenty of trivially easy and user-friendly ways to purchase Bitcoin (Coinbase for example). What is the issue with only accepting Bitcoin?
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