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Re: Things that I think will be important in the next decade

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Post by thelittleone »

mewpmewp2 wrote: post #112
Zhenya wrote: post #109

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I don't see which Facebook product you can't live without. Facebook? Who needs it! Whatsapp? Signal! Instagram? I don't know... Read something? How are their services like water?!

There are lots of communities and events that are organized through Facebook. Also lot of my friends are on Facebook and they organize gatherings etc through it.

Could you create an empty account with no personally identifiable info and use that to see events? Before deleting FB I deleted the app from phone and used browser only. If I went back it would be as a zero value profile.

Re: Things that I think will be important in the next decade

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Post by mbesto »

redsymbol wrote: post #101
newscracker wrote: post #70

What a bunch of crock! It seems like it’d always remain too much to ask for Mark to understand things and look at the big picture for the good of everyone. IMO, this post yet again makes a good case for breaking up the company. Most of this post is about how Facebook is looking for new ways to make money, and just a few sentences about large problems like diseases or poverty. He carelessly uses words like “private” a…

Many of the interpretations you have, and the intents and beliefs you claim Zuckerberg holds, are not evident in the article. You're coming across as someone with an intense confirmation bias. It's important that Facebook and other tech giants not be allowed to harm society in the coming decade. But an intense and emotional overreaction only makes that position seem less credible to the uninformed.

> But an intense and emotional overreaction only makes that position seem less credible to the uninformed.

But haven't those same companies already proven themselves to not be credible by their actions? What happens when everyone doesn't have this reaction, we get complacent and it's too late because they've already taken control? That's not confirmation bias, that's critical thinking.

> Many of the interpretations you have, and the intents and beliefs you claim Zuckerberg holds, are not evident in the article.

This is like listening to Pooh bear saying he's going to eat less honey this year because he wants to lose weight without ever reading any of the books.

Re: Things that I think will be important in the next decade

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Post by root_axis »

mewpmewp2 wrote: post #112
Zhenya wrote: post #109

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I don't see which Facebook product you can't live without. Facebook? Who needs it! Whatsapp? Signal! Instagram? I don't know... Read something? How are their services like water?!

There are lots of communities and events that are organized through Facebook. Also lot of my friends are on Facebook and they organize gatherings etc through it.

Don't participate in communities and events organized through Facebook and discourage others from doing the same.

Re: Things that I think will be important in the next decade

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Post by mewpmewp2 »

thelittleone wrote: post #121
mewpmewp2 wrote: post #112

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There are lots of communities and events that are organized through Facebook. Also lot of my friends are on Facebook and they organize gatherings etc through it.

Could you create an empty account with no personally identifiable info and use that to see events? Before deleting FB I deleted the app from phone and used browser only. If I went back it would be as a zero value profile.

This is already jumping through hoops. If my friends organize birthdays they do it through private FB events and group chats, meaning I would have to still readd all the friends I have. And at that point I am sure my new account could be correlated and linked to my old account.

Some groups like my local housing community I would have to explain who I am and give a huge spiel about how I deleted my Facebook account and I am actually X.

Re: Things that I think will be important in the next decade

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Post by seanmcdirmid »

skellera wrote: post #119
seanmcdirmid wrote: post #114

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I’ve been using my Quest daily for working out since I bought it in May, hard to argue with 30 pounds of weight loss. On the other hand, I’ve never actually gamed with it, or used it for anything other than about an hour of fitness daily. Totally worth it for me, I can’t wait to see what comes next.

What app are you using?

Mostly BoxVR but with some BeatSaber mixed in. BoxVR is super effective once you’ve learned its quirks and really commit to shadow kick boxing (putting a lot of force into your punches). BeatSaber is more fun and less of a grind, but its lack of a fitness mode means you fall out of zone too much inside and between songs. I want to try some more games with fitness potential like PistolWhip, and I’m still hoping for something better than BoxVR, which has a lot of usability deficiencies.

Re: Things that I think will be important in the next decade

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Post by mewpmewp2 »

root_axis wrote: post #124
mewpmewp2 wrote: post #112

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There are lots of communities and events that are organized through Facebook. Also lot of my friends are on Facebook and they organize gatherings etc through it.

Don't participate in communities and events organized through Facebook and discourage others from doing the same.

So I am going to skip birthdays to prove a point? Or just lose knowledge about my local housing community and what is going on? See what I mean?

Re: Things that I think will be important in the next decade

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Post by root_axis »

mewpmewp2 wrote: post #127
root_axis wrote: post #124

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Don't participate in communities and events organized through Facebook and discourage others from doing the same.

So I am going to skip birthdays to prove a point? Or just lose knowledge about my local housing community and what is going on? See what I mean?

Yes. It is worth the sacrifice. Tell your friends to send you an SMS invite to birthdays.

Re: Things that I think will be important in the next decade

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Post by fyfy18 »

untog wrote: post #99
datashow wrote: post #81

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I don't understand your attitude towards him. When I read his post, I didn't feel this way at all. It seems the problems you have with is rooted on the nature of big corporations. Basically all the big companies are doing those things, especially regulatory capture. How is replacing Mark Zuckerberg and Sheryl Sandberg with anybody else will give you a Utopia Facebook?

> How is replacing Mark Zuckerberg and Sheryl Sandberg with anybody else will give you a Utopia Facebook? Not to speak for the OP but the idea is that you don’t replace them, you just remove them. And use decentralised, open source solutions instead.

In the world as it is today, the only way that is going to happen is if someone like Facebook or Google sponsors a decentralised solution. Projects like Matrix/Riot are technically great, but that alone is not going to make regular people adopt it. They want something that's easy to use and where most of their friends are. Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see a free (from corporate control) and decentralised chat platform gain as much adoption as email in the next decade, but realistically I can't see that happening.

Re: Things that I think will be important in the next decade

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Post by root_axis »

peteretep wrote: post #107
jliptzin wrote: post #71

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Or just stop using Facebook and its products.

That's about as practical for me as giving up my local water utility as an inner-city dweller. I mean I definitely could. I can get large bottles of potable water delivered quite cheaply, and I guess I could setup a system so that that's what came out of the taps. But what I really want is for the government to intervene so I don't need to give up my local water utility, by guaranteeing minimum levels of service, and…

Sorry, the comparison of Facebook to drinkable water is totally absurd. Social media is entertainment, you don't need it to survive, not even close.
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