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Can You Locate Iran? Few Voters Can

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Re: Can You Locate Iran? Few Voters Can

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Post by seanmcdirmid »

mc32 wrote: post #16
thoughtleader31 wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, because Missouri is not a country. I'm always puzzled by this attitude that individual US states should have the same hierarchy in knowledge of the world as actual countries.

US states are like Chinese provinces. We know about our states, they know about their provinces and we both know a little bit about the countries we have ties to. US and Europe and the Americas, China and East Asia/pac rim and a bit of Africa. Basically, smaller countries study more about their surroundings more and bigger countries have more internal stuff to learn.

A lot of Americans have trouble locating Nebraska or Kansas on a map. I’m sure a lot of Chinese might get confused about where Shanxi is, especially since many of them have never left their own counties before.

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Post by eithed »

whoisjuan wrote: post #33

How the heck someone put Iran in South America? Just a little exposure to everyday media should give you enough to rule out that completely. That's such a basic geography understanding. This completely blows my mind.

I guess the same way somebody would put Iran in the middle of the ocean

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Post by thoughtleader31 »

whoisjuan wrote: post #33

How the heck someone put Iran in South America? Just a little exposure to everyday media should give you enough to rule out that completely. That's such a basic geography understanding. This completely blows my mind.

Given that it's a completely nonsense answer among the outliers, I wouldn't be as concerned as to with the people that put it in the Balkans or confuse it with Turkey.

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Post by luizfzs »

whoisjuan wrote: post #33

How the heck someone put Iran in South America? Just a little exposure to everyday media should give you enough to rule out that completely. That's such a basic geography understanding. This completely blows my mind.

How the heck someone put Iran in the US?

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Post by amflare »

magicalhippo wrote: post #23

Back in late 2003 I was visiting a friend in Florida. News was filled with the war on terror, with the invasion of Iraq starting a few months earlier. He introduced me to his neighbor, who asked where I was from. Norway I replied. "Oh, hmm, we haven't bombed Norway yet... where is it?" After a moment he added that he was only half joking, as a reference to the geography lessons he had received at school and the news…

"God created war so that Americans would learn geography." - Mark Twain - The Innocents Abroad

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Post by danans »

throwlaplace wrote: post #19
csours wrote: post #9

47% supported the strike? How could they possibly have had enough information to support it? Iran = Bad Man from Iran = Bad Kill Man from Iran = Good???

“Every miserable fool who has nothing at all of which he can be proud, adopts as a last resource pride in the nation to which he belongs; he is ready and happy to defend all its faults and follies tooth and nail, thus reimbursing himself for his own inferiority.” ― Arthur Schopenhauer edit: it's easy to read this pridefully yourself ("i have other things to be proud of and therefore i'm immune from such petty things"…

> if nationalism vexes you then i challenge you to reflect on your own loyalties/commitments.

I agree, but just because the psychological mechanisms that give rise to both humanism and nationalism are related, doesn't mean that we can't make reasonable judgments about which is better than the other, especially when the nationalism is of an ethnic or racial variety.

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Post by pflats »

tyingq wrote: post #27

"Men were about twice as likely as women to be able to identify Iran on both maps" Wow, that's unexpected. Is there some credible source on why this is the case? Also curious if this is generally true...would you get the same result if they were asked to identify Belgium on a map?

I wouldn't be surprised if there are a number of confounding factors that skew male, such TV shows/movies/video games marketed to men that feature Iran and/or the region.

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Post by mistermann »

throwlaplace wrote: post #19
csours wrote: post #9

47% supported the strike? How could they possibly have had enough information to support it? Iran = Bad Man from Iran = Bad Kill Man from Iran = Good???

“Every miserable fool who has nothing at all of which he can be proud, adopts as a last resource pride in the nation to which he belongs; he is ready and happy to defend all its faults and follies tooth and nail, thus reimbursing himself for his own inferiority.” ― Arthur Schopenhauer edit: it's easy to read this pridefully yourself ("i have other things to be proud of and therefore i'm immune from such petty things"…

"Perception is reality."

- Lee Atwater

"One has not only an ability to perceive the world but an ability to alter one's perception of it; more simply, one can change things by the manner in which one looks at them."

- Tom Robbins

"One may reasonably ask: Why do people cling to the values and practices of the past, when they so obviously no longer work? Long-standing thought patterns are hard to overcome because they often appear to serve the interests of the individual, and old ways of thinking are simpler and easier to handle. In a two-valued way of thinking, as in good and bad, right and wrong, love and hate, cause and effect, very little logical analysis is involved."

- Jacque Fresco

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