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Can You Locate Iran? Few Voters Can

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Re: Can You Locate Iran? Few Voters Can

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This sort of poll is perennial but never says anything interesting, imo.

It’s akin to asking Iranians, can you point out Missouri [or Texas or Calif] on a map?

No, because Missouri is not a country. I'm always puzzled by this attitude that individual US states should have the same hierarchy in knowledge of the world as actual countries.

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This sort of poll is perennial but never says anything interesting, imo.

I get the impression from the map of responses that many respondents were taking the piss. Who really thinks Iran is Greenland?

Clearly. So many also pointing right in the middle of the US, Brazil and Australia.

I’m not sure if the poll was portrayed to be serious.

Also, as someone who was in the US for quite some time, I found that (very much contrary to national stereotypes), Americans were quite knowledgeable about geography and global current affairs. This was evident from the multicultural societies where people knew about their friends, social meetups talking about a lot of different subjects across the world, etc. I refuse to believe that most people are bad at pointing out roughly where different countries are, unless they are countries which genuinely aren’t very well known.

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This sort of poll is perennial but never says anything interesting, imo.

It’s akin to asking Iranians, can you point out Missouri [or Texas or Calif] on a map?

Not sure that it is. Obviously, you will get people that have no clue, but people should roughly know where most countries are.

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This sort of poll is perennial but never says anything interesting, imo.

It’s akin to asking Iranians, can you point out Missouri [or Texas or Calif] on a map?

Not really, Iran is a little bit less than ten times the size of Missouri and is a regional military power, as well as controls globally relevant petroleum interests.

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This sort of poll is perennial but never says anything interesting, imo.

It’s akin to asking Iranians, can you point out Missouri [or Texas or Calif] on a map?

Hm, are you comparing a state of 6 million people with a country of 83 million that has existed for thousands of years?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s akin to asking Iranians, can you point out Missouri [or Texas or Calif] on a map?

No, because Missouri is not a country. I'm always puzzled by this attitude that individual US states should have the same hierarchy in knowledge of the world as actual countries.

US states are like Chinese provinces. We know about our states, they know about their provinces and we both know a little bit about the countries we have ties to. US and Europe and the Americas, China and East Asia/pac rim and a bit of Africa.

Basically, smaller countries study more about their surroundings more and bigger countries have more internal stuff to learn.

Re: Can You Locate Iran? Few Voters Can

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Everyone who knows how to read and know an approximate location of the middle east will be able to locate it. Not sure what's the point though? Is it to highlight how stupid average American voters are? That's a broad generalization and just a blunt offense. Also how is it an indicator of anything? 99% I Iranians wont be able to locate Wyoming. So what?

"and just a blunt offense" if you are offended you shouldn't hide behind a throwaway!

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47% supported the strike? How could they possibly have had enough information to support it? Iran = Bad Man from Iran = Bad Kill Man from Iran = Good???

“Every miserable fool who has nothing at all of which he can be proud, adopts as a last resource pride in the nation to which he belongs; he is ready and happy to defend all its faults and follies tooth and nail, thus reimbursing himself for his own inferiority.”

― Arthur Schopenhauer

edit: it's easy to read this pridefully yourself ("i have other things to be proud of and therefore i'm immune from such petty things"). i think the most significant part of the quotation is the last part - you can derive pride in direct proportion to how invested you are. most people (those that aren't nihilists) have such things that function for them in exactly the same way. it's ultimately a sublimation urge -- we prove ourselves insofar as we sacrifice. if nationalism vexes you then i challenge you to reflect on your own loyalties/commitments.

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