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Re: Ask HN: How was your first performance review?

#31
My first performance review was around 2013 or so on my first job, after not doing any significant work for the first few months I was worried I was asking my manager too many questions. I was told I was doing great. I then got a 25% raise next month without anyone communicating anything else to me (not a lot of money but the percentage is still significant at that point).

Since then, and despite not being the best worker in any group I've been in, I've have had good to stellar reviews that resulted in no actionable items and no salary adjustments.

This whole experience does lead me to believe that performance reviews are very hard to get right (ie. to make them actually useful).

Re: Ask HN: How was your first performance review?

#32
My first performance review was at my third job. I was promoted to lead dev in my first six months at my first job and by the time my review came up we had been acquired. In my second job I was made redundant a few days before my review.

My first review was a total waste of time, but I only learned this after my second review. In my first review I was given an "average" rating, because my technical knowledge was high, but some of my projects were late. Most of this was out of my control, and was down to the fact that I refused to work in my free time to make up for shoddy project management. I was also told that I could apply for a mid-level promotion, despite already being mid-level. I played ball regardless, and got my "promotion" and pay rise.

My second review was "outstanding", and I learned that my job title, at least internally, was now senior-level. While I was a better developer after 12 months, the only thing that had changed was that the manager that did my last review had left and my new manager liked me. The only constant was the managing director, and when I questioned what made the company decide I had gone from junior to senior within the space of a year they couldn't give an answer. Despite being given a nicer job title, more responsibility, and more money, I was annoyed at how stupid the process was.

A day earlier, one of our best developers was given a poor review. The manager didn't like him because his project was grossly behind schedule. This was no fault of his own, and he was being punished because he took on a very hard project and was ignored when he requested that we start from scratch due to the issues with the initial build. His review wasn't a reflection of his skill, because skill-wise he was way above everyone else there. His review was down to how liked he was, and whether he played "the game".

I've been a developer for a decade now, and I can't name a single review that was worth my time, because ultimately the outcome has always been obvious. I always try to be positive and to show empathy where possible, and for around 6+ years that approach has always given me solid reviews. The technical side has always been largely irrelevant, even when working with languages/tools that are new to me.

Re: Ask HN: How was your first performance review?

#33
It was very positive. This was back when we had 'ratings' like On Target, Above Target, Significantly Above Target, etc. I only joined a couple of months before the review period so it was not really a full review. I got positive feedback which told me that if I continue on the same track I'll be performing well above target in the next review. I got a nice raise and bonus. Eventually we got rid of the rating system, but the reviews have come with useful feedback and a decent compensation bump in the form of bonuses, salary, and RSUs each year.

Re: Ask HN: How was your first performance review?

#34
Don't fear it.

If you have a good boss/coach it will be constructive and you'll identify areas to improve on and maybe get some training if you want.

If you have a bad one you will get rated on some scales, make some goals nobody will give you room to work on. Just get through it quickly and try to keep the goals remotely realistic so you can still convince them to a raise later..

Re: Ask HN: How was your first performance review?

#35

Odd that many in this thread blame performance reviews themselves ("complete and utter waste of time", "waste of time and simply busy work", etc) and not the manager giving them. For your manager to do it right requires some courage (to give negative feedback), maturity (to do it professionally), training (e.g. never deliver feedback in 'the compliment sandwich') and empathy (to relate to the employee's POV). Obvious…

I hear what you are saying, but... in several places where I have been a manager, it really didn't matter what I said or how I said it. Pay increases (or not) came from HR. Scoring rubrics came from HR. The performance review was performance art, nothing more. I knew it, the employee knew it, and frankly it was more fun to polish our resumes and laugh/cry about it. What I tried to do instead was offer continuous feed…

Ideally a good performance review helps the employee become better, and they can use that feedback to grow in their carer.

E.g. have someone on your team who writes long e-mails? Or insta-replies to things without taking time to think? Helping those people grow is the point.

Compensation is a universe unto itself. Ideally we'd all be paid according to merit but merit is hard to measure. A (well-executed) performance review should have value in helping people grow and not just be a vector for more $$.

Realistically speaking if you want to significantly increase your compensation these days you have to get a new job.

Re: Ask HN: How was your first performance review?

#36
Right out of college, I got hired into a team that maintained trading software for a big bank. I was thoroughly disinterested in trading, which made it quite difficult for me to understand the needs of the people for whom I was maintaining software. Looking back, I realize that because of my disinterest in trading, I was a terrible fit for that job, and I was quite unhappy and non-performant as a result.

The mediocre performance review I got helped me realize that I was a poor fit for my team, and it motivated me to transfer to a different team which was a better fit.

My next few performance reviews were much better, but I eventually left the big bank for a startup, and now I am as happy as a clam!

I advise first-timers to make friendships with managers other than the one they report to, and ask their help to interpret the results of the review. It's difficult to interpret the results of a performance review without the benefit of mental separation (the ability to look at it in an impartial way, without being blinded by ego) and experience, both of which an experienced manager should have. If nothing else, having a sympathetic and interested human you trust interpret these results is bound to help a great deal.

For bonus points, identify and cultivate a few older mentors, and keep in touch with them even after you move to new teams and new jobs. For even more bonus points, pick up a mentee or two when you gain a few years of experience.

Re: Ask HN: How was your first performance review?

#37
Boss said I was too slow. It's a confusing bit of feedback because colleagues were telling me to slow down. I graduated from a pretty elite university where we had a weekend to write a client+server in C... and my first job was PHP. So the work felt trivial.

I feel that it was just a negotiation tactic. I quit after a year there. He proposed a counter-offer later, but I decided to try elsewhere.

Re: Ask HN: How was your first performance review?

#38
I think these reviews depend on your manager. If you have a good manager, they will make it important, meaningful, and worthwhile. Plus dependant on how well the reviewee prepares for the review and how serious they take it. That being said, these type of managers are rare. I'm generally unimpressed with performance reviews.

Re: Ask HN: How was your first performance review?

#39
Consider doing your own review first. Then do a review based on what you consider as your manager's point of view. If you can get some other opinions about how you seem at various points of time, eg your partner's perspective, this might be useful as well. Your general vibe of not being grouchy after various events throughout should be applicable. Feed this all into your own review of yourself. Was the year doing this work actually successful and good for you? Were you a good fit? What worked? What didn't?

Two perspectives:-

One of my early reviews: Complete and utter waste of time. Nothing said by the manager was useful for the future. No actionable items. Useless evaluation criteria and meaningless bland comments. I read the notes afterwards three times and got advice from others to verify. Their advice: get out fast.

My review at my next job was great and set the stage for much better results. I actually saw the gaps I needed to fill and multiple possibilities for improvement and alternative pathways to access them. Helped with a training plan and what I needed to cover as a educational framework for the next 10 years.

The difference was night and day. If the review is merely a checklist item then its unlikely to be useful.

Re: Ask HN: How was your first performance review?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

If a company has an “unlimited” vacation policy, it’s totally off-limits to bring that up against you in a review. They could say that you didn’t get X work done or something, but with that kind of vacation policy — it’s what they specifically signed up for.

Just another data point to show that when you hear "unlimited vacation" you should think about it the same way as when you hear your cell phone company say "unlimited data"

A company policy of unlimited vacation is highly regressive and damaging to the workforce as a whole. It obviously creates a situation where it becomes a competition on who takes less vacation time, as an indicator of one’s dedication to the company (whether you think this is a reliable indicator of dedication is irrelevant—all that matters is that many people do think it is, and evaluate others from that perspective).

To avoid this kind of situation, people should be required to take vacation, both to actually get some rest, and to keep a reasonably level playing field for all employees.

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