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Re: Ask HN: How was your first performance review?

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My company had just started doing performance reviews, as they had been growing a lot (generic small startup with unlimited vacation and all that) and it was That Time. So this was a quarterly performance review, but was my first after having worked there 1-2 years. The system had six levels resembling standard deviations in a normal distribution, so ~2% at the extreme high and extreme low. In parallel, you pick one…

5w isn’t a lot as it’s not unlimited. Unlimited means taking the whole quarter off.

Re: Ask HN: How was your first performance review?

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It was a complete and utter waste of time, as has been every other performance review I have ever been a part of. Performance reviews from bosses are almost always useless and do more harm than good. The only possible exception I've seen might be in research settings where supervisors sometimes work closely with you and may actually be qualified to evaluate your work. But in that case, usually they are already giving…

Well, I can't say I have ever had a performance review that was inspiring or useful, but it's kind of depressing when you start out having them and then stop. Because one of the subtexts is, why even pretend we might give you a raise? And it means you're unlikely to be fired, but it also means nobody even cares enough to do something about anyone that is causing problems.

Re: Ask HN: How was your first performance review?

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Odd that many in this thread blame performance reviews themselves ("complete and utter waste of time", "waste of time and simply busy work", etc) and not the manager giving them.

For your manager to do it right requires some courage (to give negative feedback), maturity (to do it professionally), training (e.g. never deliver feedback in 'the compliment sandwich') and empathy (to relate to the employee's POV). Obviously most managers lack these.

E.g. Some employees are over-eager and blitz colleagues: "Hey did you get the email I just sent 30 seconds ago?" Others like to have Jira ticket comment wars. A good manager would give direct feedback routinely throughout the year.

"Hey Bob, blowing up my inbox with dozens of IMs and emails in a single day is counter-productive."

"Hey Suzy, that 750-word Jira comment about why your dispatch function to the React store is a better approach then Duane's could have been better handled face-to-face."

Then the performance review is hopefully a boring, pedestrian summary of stuff talked about all year.

Instead managers are afraid to give feedback and wait until January to tell you all the things they hate about you. Plus your review is likely tied to your compensation/promotion, often making it unnecessarily a high-stress, do-or-die bombshell.

What's really important these days (IMHO) is not the review itself since nowadays everyone changes jobs like they change pants, what matters is your ability to receive negative feedback like an adult and adapt. It means having a manager who can give negative feedback like an adult (a big if) but that will likely help you more in your career than generic pats on the back.

Happy review season everyone.

Re: Ask HN: How was your first performance review?

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My first performance review as an employee was good. I had a manager that cared about his employees and understood their strengths and weaknesses. I was challenged on some key shortcomings but got enough positive feedback and reward to keep me motivated. He had good visibility into what I was doing and what its impact (or lack thereof) was. My first performance review that I gave as a manager was terrible. My employe…

My first performance review that I gave as a manager was terrible.

I understood that you took it personally?

Re: Ask HN: How was your first performance review?

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post #7

My company had just started doing performance reviews, as they had been growing a lot (generic small startup with unlimited vacation and all that) and it was That Time. So this was a quarterly performance review, but was my first after having worked there 1-2 years. The system had six levels resembling standard deviations in a normal distribution, so ~2% at the extreme high and extreme low. In parallel, you pick one…

Ah... managers that makeup their own rules in total contradiction with the company rules. "Love" that!

Re: Ask HN: How was your first performance review?

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Odd that many in this thread blame performance reviews themselves ("complete and utter waste of time", "waste of time and simply busy work", etc) and not the manager giving them. For your manager to do it right requires some courage (to give negative feedback), maturity (to do it professionally), training (e.g. never deliver feedback in 'the compliment sandwich') and empathy (to relate to the employee's POV). Obvious…

I hear what you are saying, but... in several places where I have been a manager, it really didn't matter what I said or how I said it. Pay increases (or not) came from HR. Scoring rubrics came from HR. The performance review was performance art, nothing more. I knew it, the employee knew it, and frankly it was more fun to polish our resumes and laugh/cry about it.

What I tried to do instead was offer continuous feedback and career direction, with the understanding that it was just advice. Sure I tried my part to advocate to HR and up the food chain, but in a lot of places they really don't care about retainment or career progression.

Re: Ask HN: How was your first performance review?

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I seem to be going against the grain here, but I actually find them generally useful. I have a 1-2-1 with my Line Manager every 4 weeks and I find it great to discuss what I have been doing.

My manager asks about what ive been working on, if the pace is good for me and if there is anything holding me back.

I can be frank on how I feel about things (Ive mentioned that I felt I wasnt doing any productive work, because I wasnt comfortable with the experience I had and didnt want to slow down the team) and get honest feedback with them actually trying to help. Its also a great time for me to improve our relationship and ask about the future (Whats happening with this team? How is this project going? When will I be able to do x?).

The main issue here seems to be managers who don't care, not the process itself.

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