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Laptop OEMs – make a proper high-end AMD laptop

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Re: Laptop OEMs – make a proper high-end AMD laptop

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Post by naniwaduni »

kstenerud wrote: post #55

"There needs to be display options well above FHD/1080p." With a 13 inch screen, 1920x1080 is at the pixel density (150) where someone with 20/20 vision won't notice pixellation from a distance of 24 inches. Even with a 15 inch display (density = 128) you're still pretty damn close. Realistically, it would make no difference in usability to go beyond 2560xwhatever in resolution on a laptop, and even that's already ge…

People use laptops at far closer than 24 inches, though?

Not all the time, sure. But it's kind of half the point of a laptop to be able to use them where you can't just clear out two feet to put between your face and the screen.

You can get that much space in an economy seat if you don't have a head, maybe.

Re: Laptop OEMs – make a proper high-end AMD laptop

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Post by rememberdeath »

kstenerud wrote: post #55

"There needs to be display options well above FHD/1080p." With a 13 inch screen, 1920x1080 is at the pixel density (150) where someone with 20/20 vision won't notice pixellation from a distance of 24 inches. Even with a 15 inch display (density = 128) you're still pretty damn close. Realistically, it would make no difference in usability to go beyond 2560xwhatever in resolution on a laptop, and even that's already ge…

I currently have a 4k 15.6 inch laptop, it is very easy to differentiate it from a 1080p one.

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Post by akvadrako »

kstenerud wrote: post #55

"There needs to be display options well above FHD/1080p." With a 13 inch screen, 1920x1080 is at the pixel density (150) where someone with 20/20 vision won't notice pixellation from a distance of 24 inches. Even with a 15 inch display (density = 128) you're still pretty damn close. Realistically, it would make no difference in usability to go beyond 2560xwhatever in resolution on a laptop, and even that's already ge…

I use my 13" laptop screen at a comfortable distance of 15 in (40cm). 2K is definitionally not enough - text is either jagged or blurry. 4K is the next logical step because you can use 2x scaling.

Using scaling ("magnification") doesn't defeat the purpose. The purpose is to have clear text.

Re: Laptop OEMs – make a proper high-end AMD laptop

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Post by PudgePacket »

jiggawatts wrote: post #26
jankotek wrote: post #16

> Ultramobile, slim, and desktop replacements No! I want proper thick modular 17" desktop replacement with 256GB RAM. Platform that would replace old Thinkpads.

We're the "nonexistent" market of IT consultants with high incomes that need a high-end laptop. As a third-party to my clients, I cannot rely on the availability of external monitors, keyboards, docking stations, or WiFi. I lug around a heavy Clevo laptop with a 17" 4K screen, 2x RJ-45 ports, quad-core 4 GHz CPU, and 64 GB of memory. These are my minimum requirements, and practically nothing meets it any more! Clevo…

I assume you've heard of them before but just in case, System76 higher end laptops have 17" 4k, RJ-45, high end CPU, high end GPU, 64GB RAM

https://system76.com/laptops

Re: Laptop OEMs – make a proper high-end AMD laptop

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Post by kstenerud »

naniwaduni wrote: post #61
kstenerud wrote: post #55

"There needs to be display options well above FHD/1080p." With a 13 inch screen, 1920x1080 is at the pixel density (150) where someone with 20/20 vision won't notice pixellation from a distance of 24 inches. Even with a 15 inch display (density = 128) you're still pretty damn close. Realistically, it would make no difference in usability to go beyond 2560xwhatever in resolution on a laptop, and even that's already ge…

People use laptops at far closer than 24 inches, though? Not all the time, sure. But it's kind of half the point of a laptop to be able to use them where you can't just clear out two feet to put between your face and the screen. You can get that much space in an economy seat if you don't have a head, maybe.

When my laptop is in my lap, the screen is about 60 cm (24 inches) from my eyes. I could move my face 10cm closer, but not for long without being uncomfortable (any closer and my elbows would be behind my back).

When it's on a desk, the screen is at a similar distance.

Re: Laptop OEMs – make a proper high-end AMD laptop

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Post by basilgohar »

kstenerud wrote: post #55

"There needs to be display options well above FHD/1080p." With a 13 inch screen, 1920x1080 is at the pixel density (150) where someone with 20/20 vision won't notice pixellation from a distance of 24 inches. Even with a 15 inch display (density = 128) you're still pretty damn close. Realistically, it would make no difference in usability to go beyond 2560xwhatever in resolution on a laptop, and even that's already ge…

Pixelation is not the only factor that makes a high-res display worth it. Smoother fonts, scaling, and overall sharper graphics are all perceptible even if you are not consciously aware of individual pixels. All of this contributes to, or helps alleviate, eye strain and fatigue.

Re: Laptop OEMs – make a proper high-end AMD laptop

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Post by mister_hn »

nrp wrote: post #58
mister_hn wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not high-end at all. Only 8GB Ram, no dedicated GPU, no PCIe 4.0 drive..

It’s worth noting that neither AMD nor Intel’s latest notebook CPUs support PCIe 4.0. I imagine that won’t be coming until the next generation. Also, you can configure the Surface Laptop 3 being referred to with up to 32GB of RAM: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/store/configure/Surface-Lapt...

the Ryzen 4th gen will support PCIe 4.0

Re: Laptop OEMs – make a proper high-end AMD laptop

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Post by deaps »

Reading through the comments proves different strokes for different folks.

It took me quite a while to find a laptop I'm completely happy with. I ended up with a (late-2019) Razer Blade Stealth (with gtx1650). I do run the internal screen at 1080p (at 100%) and I couldn't imagine running it at 4k. My older 13" macbook has higher resolution, but you end up having to scale it anyway (In reality, I think it's actually doubled, then scaled back). On a 13", a good quality 1080p screen (to me) is the way to go - anything higher needs scaled.

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