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Black boys don’t need more discipline, they need mentors (2018)

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Re: Black boys don’t need more discipline, they need mentors (2018)

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Post by humanrebar »

pm90 wrote: post #318
humanrebar wrote: post #313

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are plenty of boys stuck in intergenerational poverty and dysfunction all across the spectrum of genetic attributes. You can't tell a neglected boy that statistically he is well nurtured and has good role models.

> You can't tell a neglected boy that statistically he is well nurtured and has good role models. Nobody will. Literally nobody said that. When talking about assistance programs to the needy, we consider statistical data in order to target the most needy. So eg the result is providing funding for these programs in minority heavy schools.

The lowest income counties are generally rural: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_lowest-income_counties...

Though I don't know why it needs to be a competition. The content in the article is good for people to consider for the boys they care about in their lives. The biggest difference most people make isn't becoming convinced about policy positions but in how they engage with their loved ones and local communities.

Re: Black boys don’t need more discipline, they need mentors (2018)

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Post by fersho311 »

sangnoir wrote: post #281
fersho311 wrote: post #106

About me: I'm asian, 32 years old. Throughout my childhood, I always thought Black people seemed so cool and funny. They exude confidence and it intimidated my to make friends with them. Now I teach people coding before and after my work as a full time software engineer. A few of my students are black. I had a hard time working with them. Later, as I became friends with them, I realized they are very self conscious a…

> Are there any activities to do that can reduce the comfort time to the minimum? I'm not an educator, but I think the goal is to normalize asking questions. This can be achieved by initially forcing everyone to ask a question (no matter how silly/not related to the topic of the day). You could give them time to write down the questions first, then everyone gets their turn to read it. Later, you can relax it so that…

I like this, a little hard to enforce, but I don’t see any issues. Only way to find out is to try.

Re: Black boys don’t need more discipline, they need mentors (2018)

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Post by pnako »

lopmotr wrote: post #282
drno123 wrote: post #177

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I heard someone say a long time ago something along the lines that the frontal lobe develops differently between ethnic groups and that it controls your empathy and impulse reactions. I haven’t seen any research that supports this though (and did nit search for that). It would be interesting to see if this claim is supported by science.

Interesting but heretical for both scientists and laymen.

The very concept of heresy is antithetical to science.

Re: Black boys don’t need more discipline, they need mentors (2018)

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Post by burfog »

crimsonalucard wrote: post #195
fersho311 wrote: post #106

About me: I'm asian, 32 years old. Throughout my childhood, I always thought Black people seemed so cool and funny. They exude confidence and it intimidated my to make friends with them. Now I teach people coding before and after my work as a full time software engineer. A few of my students are black. I had a hard time working with them. Later, as I became friends with them, I realized they are very self conscious a…

I wonder why a lot of asians have this racial inferiority complex. I (being asian myself) grew up in an affluent asian dominated neighborhood of Cupertino. I had black, white and asian friends growing up and I never thought too much of racial issues. Maybe because in my schools asian americans were largely the majority. Again, I had the same experience going to school at UCLA which was largely populated mostly by asi…

We don't need any complicated social or cultural explanations for the dating issue.

Women generally prefer taller men. Asian men tend to be short.

The explanation works the other way too, with men typically preferring shorter women. There are other attributes as well, such as muscle mass and the amount of body hair.

Re: Black boys don’t need more discipline, they need mentors (2018)

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Post by pnako »

DanBC wrote: post #234
hogFeast wrote: post #152

Funnily enough, the UK had this problem about fifteen years ago. Everyone was wringing their hands madly and talking about things like mentorship, and how the education system was inherently racist (and, unfortunately, always making implications about how white people were all racist and this was a deliberate outcome) or certain groups apparently having no fathers. Fifteen years later, and black kids are more than tw…

Your points would be more believable if you supported them with reliable sources. For example, this says that there is an ethnicity wage gap: https://www.ons.gov.uk/employmentandlabourmarket/peopleinwor... Figure Four of that link (which allows you to clicky to remove different groups) clearly shows that "White British" have a higher median hourly rate than "Black, African, Caribbean, or Black British". The picture f…

Do you think that, given the tremendous issues resulting from multiculturalism, it would thus make sense to stop that experiment and maybe have Africans achieve in Africa, Pakistanis achieve in Pakistan, and so on?

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Post by aaomidi »

ThrowawayR2 wrote: post #321
aaomidi wrote: post #274

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Yeah...no Culture is generational, it doesn't exist in a specific individual. Considering African Americans are still discriminated against everywhere, they never had time to develop a strong local culture.

Yeah...yes. Immigrants have zero time to develop a strong local culture; they have to assimilate on the fly. Yet many of them go on to build successful families and wealth. People can keep making excuses but they will only sound thinner and thinner as the decades go on. (The Thirteenth Amendment was ratified one hundred fifty five years ago; the Civil Rights Act, fifty-six.) Don't think that immigrants and other mino…

Sigh.

Re: Black boys don’t need more discipline, they need mentors (2018)

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Post by ThrowawayR2 »

aaomidi wrote: post #346
ThrowawayR2 wrote: post #321

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah...yes. Immigrants have zero time to develop a strong local culture; they have to assimilate on the fly. Yet many of them go on to build successful families and wealth. People can keep making excuses but they will only sound thinner and thinner as the decades go on. (The Thirteenth Amendment was ratified one hundred fifty five years ago; the Civil Rights Act, fifty-six.) Don't think that immigrants and other mino…

Sigh.

You are welcome to sigh and look down your nose all you want but you'd best remember that naturalized immigrants and their descendants can vote too and they're probably not going to be too keen on voting for people that don't treat them as equals.

Re: Black boys don’t need more discipline, they need mentors (2018)

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Post by crimsonalucard »

burfog wrote: post #344
crimsonalucard wrote: post #195

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wonder why a lot of asians have this racial inferiority complex. I (being asian myself) grew up in an affluent asian dominated neighborhood of Cupertino. I had black, white and asian friends growing up and I never thought too much of racial issues. Maybe because in my schools asian americans were largely the majority. Again, I had the same experience going to school at UCLA which was largely populated mostly by asi…

We don't need any complicated social or cultural explanations for the dating issue. Women generally prefer taller men. Asian men tend to be short. The explanation works the other way too, with men typically preferring shorter women. There are other attributes as well, such as muscle mass and the amount of body hair.

The problem here is that you're wrong. Tons of of tall asian males have this issue.

Also the explanation does not work the other way. Men do not typically prefer shorter women. It is the women making a selection preference here.

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Post by fiblye »

crimsonalucard wrote: post #330
kilroy_jones wrote: post #304

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Asians dating white people may come less from seeing other Asians as inferior, but from a desire to escape their own cultural trappings. Depending on how conservative (traditional) the family is, many Asian women I know prefer dating non-Asian men because it doesn't come with the same expectations from their family. They can escape the make babies, make money, deal with a mother-in-law pressures, which may be much hi…

This is not true. First of all if this were true you'd see tons of asian men dating white women to escape the cultural pressure. You don't see this at all, the phenomenon is largely among women. Second of all, the pressures you describe are a bit exaggerated. The whole mother-in-law, make money and make baby deal is not very common at all. It exists and is more common among asians than westerners but it is still very…

> First of all if this were true you'd see tons of asian men dating white women to escape the cultural pressure.

Before jumping to conclusions, there’s another question to ask: do Asian men not want white women, do white women not want Asian men, or is there another reason entirely?

Re: Black boys don’t need more discipline, they need mentors (2018)

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Post by Marsymars »

drno123 wrote: post #179
JshWright wrote: post #86

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Yes. You know what else happened in that time? The War on Drugs.

I am European - does Canada have War on drugs? How many black children in Canada are raised in single-parent families?

Canadian, but I'm not really informed enough to answer your questions - just to point out that Canada and the USA have different racial demographics. They've got nearly the same % of white people, but Canada has a 3.4% black population vs 12.7% in the USA. (Canada mostly makes up the difference with Asian population, 14.7% vs 5.4%.)
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