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Cars in northern Canada sometime have block heaters installed for cold starting. How cold should it be before you use it? Ask the internet: https://www.theglobeandmail.com/amp/globe-drive/culture/comm...
Standard in every car I've owned in Canada. Never needed it.
Getting a 787 back in the air after a diversion
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Re: Getting a 787 back in the air after a diversion
#92Back when I worked at Boeing they had the AOG (Airplane On Ground) crew to do this sort of thing. Their job was to be on call 24/7 and do whatever it took to get that airplane back in the air, and they pretty much had a blank check to do it. Naturally, they were the best mechanics Boeing had. An airplane makes money only when it is flying. When it is sitting on the ground, it loses money at a prodigious rate. A large…
> I understand that Microsoft has a similar crew they can dispatch to any customer to get their business software working again. There is a saying that these teams are dispatched by private jet and consist of 8 executives and 2 engineers.
Re: Getting a 787 back in the air after a diversion
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Contrary to your assertion the two engined craft are just as safe (or safer!) as the four engined craft because of changes in procedures. Fuel management, weather forecasting, general engine reliability, lubricant reserves are all different and much more stringent for a twin engined jet over water on a straightline route. The effect is the aircraft is less long in the air anyway which has a big effect on the risk cal…
Doesn't the fact that the twin-engine planes have to submit to more stringent ETOPS requirements mean the FAA believes they're less reliable than four engine planes?
Why not research a thing BEFORE deciding you have a strong opinion about it?
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You got a source for any of this?
Nope. People in maintenance departments don't generally write blogs about this, and it's not like an airline is going to help publicize their issues. And judging by how even my post is downvoted, they're not likely to either.
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Re: Getting a 787 back in the air after a diversion
#95Earlier quoted context omitted.
Cars in northern Canada sometime have block heaters installed for cold starting. How cold should it be before you use it? Ask the internet: https://www.theglobeandmail.com/amp/globe-drive/culture/comm...
Standard in every car I've owned in Canada. Never needed it.
I had to use a block heater (and battery heater) a number of times. But once I moved to a late 80’s car, I almost never had to use the block heater.
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I might get some of the backstory halfway off, but my grandfather was in Alaska during WWII for the construction of the Alaska Highway. They tried to never turn off truck and equipment engines because if you did, you had to build a fire under them to get them warm enough to start again.
Cars in northern Canada sometime have block heaters installed for cold starting. How cold should it be before you use it? Ask the internet: https://www.theglobeandmail.com/amp/globe-drive/culture/comm...
Re: Getting a 787 back in the air after a diversion
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> I understand that Microsoft has a similar crew they can dispatch to any customer to get their business software working again. There is a saying that these teams are dispatched by private jet and consist of 8 executives and 2 engineers.
I imagine these 8 executives are there to lay down suppressive fire, keeping customer's management at bay so that the engineers can go in and fix the problem uninterrupted.
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"Prodigious Rate" -- To put this in context, the latest numbers I saw is about $125 per min of unscheduled delay. It also doesn't take that many delays to wipe profitability to zero.
A plane sitting on the ground costs revenue. The highest revenue per hour route is JFK to Heathrow at $24,639 [1]. A 787-800 costs about $8000/hr [2]. So that's about $277/min of revenue. Yeah, $125/min sounds about right for an average route. [1] https://www.planestats.com/bhsw_2014sep [2] https://www.airliners.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1398091
My understanding is that very few airlines outright own their planes.
Re: Getting a 787 back in the air after a diversion
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> I understand that Microsoft has a similar crew they can dispatch to any customer to get their business software working again. There is a saying that these teams are dispatched by private jet and consist of 8 executives and 2 engineers.
I imagine these 8 executives are there to lay down suppressive fire, keeping customer's management at bay so that the engineers can go in and fix the problem uninterrupted.
If you do a really good job at handling the communication separation the business relationship is stronger after and each side better understands one another’s needs and motivations. My foot in mouth moment ended up turning into a larger business arrangement because the CEO turned it into a positive experience.
While not a universally perfect negotiating book, I’ve found “Never Split the Difference” to be an interesting tome on making the best of adversarial business situations.
Re: Getting a 787 back in the air after a diversion
#100Back when I worked at Boeing they had the AOG (Airplane On Ground) crew to do this sort of thing. Their job was to be on call 24/7 and do whatever it took to get that airplane back in the air, and they pretty much had a blank check to do it. Naturally, they were the best mechanics Boeing had. An airplane makes money only when it is flying. When it is sitting on the ground, it loses money at a prodigious rate. A large…
> I understand that Microsoft has a similar crew they can dispatch to any customer to get their business software working again. There is a saying that these teams are dispatched by private jet and consist of 8 executives and 2 engineers.
Yikes well I work for a large corporation that uses tons of Microsoft software, and we use their dispatch team constantly. Granted, we are probably one of their largest customers. It's great to have such a resource. But the fact that we need it doesn't speak well for Microsoft -- I would prefer if we didn't need such a dispatch team on a constant basis.