Does this mean Nvidia can't export GPUs to China?
Is that snark?
Google suggests Nvidia GPUs are probably made in Guangdong by PCPartner.
The actual chips, I don't know, but TSMC does have fabs in China.
U.S. government limits exports of artificial intelligence software
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Re: U.S. government limits exports of artificial intelligence software
#82Additional details are present in the unpublished rule (document 2019-27649 [1][2]). -- cut -- Geospatial imagery “software” “specially designed” for training a Deep Convolutional Neural Network to automate the analysis of geospatial imagery and point clouds, and having all of the following: 1. Provides a graphical user interface that enables the user to identify objects (e.g., vehicles, houses, etc.) from within geo…
Gosh! There are like thousand github repos that do these stuff. This could become a tool to prosecute a lot of unwanted people like DeCSS.
With a GUI and everything? I find it hard to believe there are a thousand projects doing that.
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#83We're in an early and explosive growth stage of AI where well-established statistical knowledge is having an unreasonable effect when combined with computing power. I've yet to see any AI platform that is mindbending vs doing basic math with a multivariate normal distribution. The eyewatering stuff is the number of Hz of computing power being thrown into simulating Go games, etc, etc. Assuming that among 1.4 billion…
"I've yet to see any AI platform that is mindbending" 1. Siri / Alexa and similar for voice recognition and doing basic tasks. 2. Face recognition for uploaded pictures on Facebook. 3. Lots of people use FaceID on iPhones. 4. Tesla and other SDC systems: yes, it's not good enough for general use, but the fact that it mostly works in California is pretty cool.. "Mindbending" is subjective, but these all use DNNs, and…
1, 2 and 3 are absolutely mundane. One could argue that if anything, they are disappointing: i remember passable speech recognition running on pentium 2 with 32 megs of ram (dragon naturally speaking was first released in 1997). "Natural" language parsers were around starting with the first text adventures (80s as far as I remember). Considering the computing resources big G and big A have, the performance of this "AI" is mediocre at best.
Facial feature extraction is not rocket science either, it dates back to at least 1993, so 386/486 with 4-8 megs of RAM.
You want mindbending and scary? Mindbending: deepfakes. Scary: automated ai-based law enforcement.
Re: U.S. government limits exports of artificial intelligence software
#84I recall similar happening during Bush admin during 2000s. Many of our software customers were international. To obtain an export license we were required to scan our source code with an approved Dept of Commerce scan software vendor to look for all kinds of inappropriate code like a too strong cryptography algorithm in the licensing portion and plagarism of copyrighted code. The first couple of releases this was done were brutal. Many of the developers not far our of the university were used to taking anything from the internet/open source if it saved effort. There was not a clear company policy about this until the export restrictions. Sometimes there would be a half dozen chain of borrowing before a culprit turned up. We muddled through and fixed hundreds of flags. If I was the program manager, I'd schedule and export code scan every week to avoid late problems.
AI code is just another layer in this odorous process.
Re: U.S. government limits exports of artificial intelligence software
#85We're in an early and explosive growth stage of AI where well-established statistical knowledge is having an unreasonable effect when combined with computing power. I've yet to see any AI platform that is mindbending vs doing basic math with a multivariate normal distribution. The eyewatering stuff is the number of Hz of computing power being thrown into simulating Go games, etc, etc. Assuming that among 1.4 billion…
They are Dumb and they are just Reacting out of some "fuck we have to do something" instinct driven by jobless fucks like Peter Thiel/Graham Allison/Kai-Fu Lee constant rhetoric about AI and falling behind and how its going to effect everyone. This is Fear based Decision Making 101. All it leads to is more absurd outcomes such as Endless Wars, Huge Monopolies, More consolidation of power and resources in the hand of…
> All it leads to is more absurd outcomes such as Endless Wars, Huge Monopolies, More consolidation of power and resources in the hand of few therefore more inequality
This is going to persist regardless of this decision
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#86Naieve question: Are there any repositories (e.g. Hosted at github) that one should mirror?
Good question, bumping for visibility
Re: U.S. government limits exports of artificial intelligence software
#87Additional details are present in the unpublished rule (document 2019-27649 [1][2]). -- cut -- Geospatial imagery “software” “specially designed” for training a Deep Convolutional Neural Network to automate the analysis of geospatial imagery and point clouds, and having all of the following: 1. Provides a graphical user interface that enables the user to identify objects (e.g., vehicles, houses, etc.) from within geo…
Gosh! There are like thousand github repos that do these stuff. This could become a tool to prosecute a lot of unwanted people like DeCSS.
Lots of interesting precedent to come out of it as well. By putting code on Github, an American website, as a developer are you actually exporting it? Or are the people cloning the repo reaching into America and extracting it?
If it is considered exporting, is github the exporter, or is the developer. Just like a company might produce a metal widget but another company procures and exports it, the original company that made the widget isn't the exporter.
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#88This wrong, we are going to lose on that.
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#89Earlier quoted context omitted.
"I've yet to see any AI platform that is mindbending" 1. Siri / Alexa and similar for voice recognition and doing basic tasks. 2. Face recognition for uploaded pictures on Facebook. 3. Lots of people use FaceID on iPhones. 4. Tesla and other SDC systems: yes, it's not good enough for general use, but the fact that it mostly works in California is pretty cool.. "Mindbending" is subjective, but these all use DNNs, and…
1, 2 and 3 are absolutely mundane. One could argue that if anything, they are disappointing: i remember passable speech recognition running on pentium 2 with 32 megs of ram (dragon naturally speaking was first released in 1997). "Natural" language parsers were around starting with the first text adventures (80s as far as I remember). Considering the computing resources big G and big A have, the performance of this "A…
imo, working memory at scale via improvements to more obscure methods like a DNC is what will be the next leap and make todays 'AI' seem mundane. Most AI today like deepfakes involve giving the model all memories available via input.
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#90Earlier quoted context omitted.
Gosh! There are like thousand github repos that do these stuff. This could become a tool to prosecute a lot of unwanted people like DeCSS.
Could you please provide a few github links?
Object detection in aerial images is a rather booming field with 100s of papers published on the topic and contests going on in top conferences. I wouldn't be surprised if OSM is also doing some of this.
In about 5 minutes I could find these:
https://github.com/search?q=geospatial+deep+learning
https://github.com/search?q=satellite+images+deep+learning