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U.S. government limits exports of artificial intelligence software

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Re: U.S. government limits exports of artificial intelligence software

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Additional details are present in the unpublished rule (document 2019-27649 [1][2]). -- cut -- Geospatial imagery “software” “specially designed” for training a Deep Convolutional Neural Network to automate the analysis of geospatial imagery and point clouds, and having all of the following: 1. Provides a graphical user interface that enables the user to identify objects (e.g., vehicles, houses, etc.) from within geo…

So is Esri worried?

Re: U.S. government limits exports of artificial intelligence software

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The "graphical user interface" bit is weird. I suppose you are fine if the software is driven entirely by keyboard shortcuts.

IMO that's an indication that this was made for a specific piece of software and trying to limit the collateral damage.

Same here. They are framing a specific software, possibly a very specific business deal from happening.

Re: U.S. government limits exports of artificial intelligence software

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Additional details are present in the unpublished rule (document 2019-27649 [1][2]). -- cut -- Geospatial imagery “software” “specially designed” for training a Deep Convolutional Neural Network to automate the analysis of geospatial imagery and point clouds, and having all of the following: 1. Provides a graphical user interface that enables the user to identify objects (e.g., vehicles, houses, etc.) from within geo…

Gosh! There are like thousand github repos that do these stuff. This could become a tool to prosecute a lot of unwanted people like DeCSS.

Could you please provide a few github links?

Re: U.S. government limits exports of artificial intelligence software

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post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The main restriction is "“specially designed” for training a Deep Convolutional Neural Network to automate the analysis of geospatial imagery and point clouds".

And having a GUI. It appears you can simply export a binary framework (with or without source) and let the buyer build an interface on top of it. Building an interface is not terribly advanced work and can be done by fresh bootcamp grads even...

Strangely given that it has to meet all requirements, doesn't that mean multiple people could release two or three different projects that work together?

Although saying "well technically" as you get dragged off for waterboarding may not make you feel better.

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It is meaningful if the US is ahead of any cooperating bloc of powers in any covered area of image recognition. This is much broader than being ahead of specifically China on the whole. For it to not be true would essentially imply that no new research is happening in the US.

I doubt the US is ahead in this area. China gains heaps upon heaps or practical experience in CV by sheer virtue of the breadth of its surveillance networks. Not to say we aren't doing the same here in the US, but efforts seem to be much more scattered

I can see the surveillance network providing vastly more training data. But isn't that orthogonal with developing the algorithms?

Or is it that training data provides experience, which improves the algorithms? Or the application of the algorithms?

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post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The "graphical user interface" bit is weird. I suppose you are fine if the software is driven entirely by keyboard shortcuts.

IMO that's an indication that this was made for a specific piece of software and trying to limit the collateral damage.

Maxar

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This assumes the US is ahead of China in image recognition. Is there any justification for that?

Considering even Chinese kids are building drones with AI driven aimbots for fun in their spare time, I highly doubt it. https://www.robomaster.com

Re: U.S. government limits exports of artificial intelligence software

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Not related to AI but instead related to geo-spatial imagery, I’m pretty sure I saw YT videos of ISIS commanders coordinating suicidal VBIED attacks in Syria using Google Maps aerial imagery. That was happening back in 2014-2015, when such videos were not instantly banned on /r/combatfootage and /r/SyrianCivilWar .

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We're in an early and explosive growth stage of AI where well-established statistical knowledge is having an unreasonable effect when combined with computing power. I've yet to see any AI platform that is mindbending vs doing basic math with a multivariate normal distribution. The eyewatering stuff is the number of Hz of computing power being thrown into simulating Go games, etc, etc. Assuming that among 1.4 billion…

None of the convnets are Gaussian. It was one of the big reasons convnets came to be at all, to model highly kurtotic distributions like natural images. Chinese convnet research is absolutely state of the art already, indeed.

You can do basic math to a multivariate normal distribution to approximate other distributions. In classic feedforward networks, that's achieved by using nonlinear activation functions. Very wide networks turn into Gaussian processes in the limit [0]. There are also approaches explicitly embracing the "basic math on multivariate normal distributions" framework using normalizing flows [1].

[0] https://arxiv.org/abs/1711.00165

[1] https://arxiv.org/abs/1505.05770

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