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U.S. government limits exports of artificial intelligence software

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Re: U.S. government limits exports of artificial intelligence software

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post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you point to some of that cooperation or legislation regarding it, that sounds quite interesting.

My guess it's related to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_Eyes

It more likely has to do with NORAD.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_Aerospace_Defen...

Re: U.S. government limits exports of artificial intelligence software

#42
This is pretty bad. Or good depending on your perspective.

I'm based in Australia, and we started playing today with analysis of geospatial imagery for bush fire imagery (because the country is on fire).

ECCN0D521No.1 from https://s3.amazonaws.com/public-inspection.federalregister.g... covers pretty much everything I'm doing.

I guess if I want to look at the positive side, it means I don't have to compete with any US vendors if I want to sell my work.

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post #20

We're in an early and explosive growth stage of AI where well-established statistical knowledge is having an unreasonable effect when combined with computing power. I've yet to see any AI platform that is mindbending vs doing basic math with a multivariate normal distribution. The eyewatering stuff is the number of Hz of computing power being thrown into simulating Go games, etc, etc. Assuming that among 1.4 billion…

None of the convnets are Gaussian. It was one of the big reasons convnets came to be at all, to model highly kurtotic distributions like natural images.

Chinese convnet research is absolutely state of the art already, indeed.

Re: U.S. government limits exports of artificial intelligence software

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post #42

This is pretty bad. Or good depending on your perspective. I'm based in Australia, and we started playing today with analysis of geospatial imagery for bush fire imagery (because the country is on fire). ECCN0D521No.1 from https://s3.amazonaws.com/public-inspection.federalregister.g... covers pretty much everything I'm doing. I guess if I want to look at the positive side, it means I don't have to compete with any US…

> I guess if I want to look at the positive side, it means I don't have to compete with any US vendors if I want to sell my work.

Until the Australian government gets the same idea

Re: U.S. government limits exports of artificial intelligence software

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Additional details are present in the unpublished rule (document 2019-27649 [1][2]). -- cut -- Geospatial imagery “software” “specially designed” for training a Deep Convolutional Neural Network to automate the analysis of geospatial imagery and point clouds, and having all of the following: 1. Provides a graphical user interface that enables the user to identify objects (e.g., vehicles, houses, etc.) from within geo…

The "graphical user interface" bit is weird. I suppose you are fine if the software is driven entirely by keyboard shortcuts.

Re: U.S. government limits exports of artificial intelligence software

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Additional details are present in the unpublished rule (document 2019-27649 [1][2]). -- cut -- Geospatial imagery “software” “specially designed” for training a Deep Convolutional Neural Network to automate the analysis of geospatial imagery and point clouds, and having all of the following: 1. Provides a graphical user interface that enables the user to identify objects (e.g., vehicles, houses, etc.) from within geo…

So image recognition APIs like ones provided by AWS and GCP should be affected by this due to #2 and #3, no? Or the “provides a graphical user interface” part applies to all points?

Edit: I overlooked “have all of the following”.

Re: U.S. government limits exports of artificial intelligence software

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post #46

Additional details are present in the unpublished rule (document 2019-27649 [1][2]). -- cut -- Geospatial imagery “software” “specially designed” for training a Deep Convolutional Neural Network to automate the analysis of geospatial imagery and point clouds, and having all of the following: 1. Provides a graphical user interface that enables the user to identify objects (e.g., vehicles, houses, etc.) from within geo…

So image recognition APIs like ones provided by AWS and GCP should be affected by this due to #2 and #3, no? Or the “provides a graphical user interface” part applies to all points? Edit: I overlooked “have all of the following”.

Well, it says "having all of the following", so I think an API is fine.

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#48
post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So image recognition APIs like ones provided by AWS and GCP should be affected by this due to #2 and #3, no? Or the “provides a graphical user interface” part applies to all points? Edit: I overlooked “have all of the following”.

Well, it says "having all of the following", so I think an API is fine.

Oh, sorry, didn’t see that. Seems kinda pointless then.

Re: U.S. government limits exports of artificial intelligence software

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Additional details are present in the unpublished rule (document 2019-27649 [1][2]). -- cut -- Geospatial imagery “software” “specially designed” for training a Deep Convolutional Neural Network to automate the analysis of geospatial imagery and point clouds, and having all of the following: 1. Provides a graphical user interface that enables the user to identify objects (e.g., vehicles, houses, etc.) from within geo…

The "graphical user interface" bit is weird. I suppose you are fine if the software is driven entirely by keyboard shortcuts.

IMO that's an indication that this was made for a specific piece of software and trying to limit the collateral damage.

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post #5

They say it doesn't apply to Canada. What prevents a Chinese company to open a business in Canada and get access to US A.I software without the license?

Canada counts as the US for several national security purposes. There's a lot of cooperation to prevent this type of loophole.

When they had the cryptography restriction, I’m pretty sure it was still ok in Canada to export it. That’s why OpenBSD is based in Calgary.
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