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Re: What Will Happen in the 2020s

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Post by chukye »

uxcolumbo wrote: post #285
chukye wrote: post #31

6 is a big NO. The most part of diseases of this decade are caused by plant based diets. Humans need meat, without it we get sick. B12 can't be found in plants, there are plenty studies that shows how sick we get if we eat ONLY plants.

RE: The most part of diseases of this decade are caused by plant based diets Do you have any studies that back up your claim that humans need meat to live a healthy life? Several governmental bodies worldwide state[1] that one can live healthy using a plant based diet and The Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine[0] even recommend a plant based diet for good health and disease prevention. Did you know B12 is…

I'm sorry, here are some articles that supports me when I say that plant-based diet are not good for your health:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1331544/

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/26493452/

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S00223...

https://academic.oup.com/ajcn/article/90/4/943/4597049

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/15072869/

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/30061399/

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3466124/

I'm not a huge fan of nutrition, so that's why I take too long post these, anyway don't believe me or in any article, test on yourself and tell me.

Plant-based diet might be good for environment, but for sure are not good for your health.

Re: What Will Happen in the 2020s

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Post by chukye »

ertecturing wrote: post #112
anonytrary wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is just not true. You're probably thinking of vegans who aren't allowed to have cheese, milk, and eggs. Vegetarians can easily get B12 in their diets.

Vegetarians get B12 from the animal products created from animals which supplemented B12. Everyone is supplementing B12 regardless of their diet, it's just a matter of how many steps removed from the supplement that people seem to think makes a difference (it doesn't).

I'm sorry, here are some articles that supports me when I say that plant-based diet are not good for your health:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1331544/

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/26493452/

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S00223...

https://academic.oup.com/ajcn/article/90/4/943/4597049

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/15072869/

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/30061399/

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3466124/

I'm not a huge fan of nutrition, so that's why I take too long post these, anyway don't believe me or in any article, test on yourself and tell me.

Plant-based diet might be good for environment, but for sure are not good for your health.

Re: What Will Happen in the 2020s

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Post by chukye »

uxcolumbo wrote: post #306
chukye wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I bet you live in San Francisco :D /jokes a side; for you to be healthy without eating meat you need to eat a large variation of plants, it's not only one, it's not only one meal by day. It's not easy and have a great impact in nature too, meat have all we need and is simpler. Also, humans that are fed only with meat are able to eat once a week (or less).

Again, please share the studies to back up your claims. You're either trolling or just very poorly informed and spreading misinformation without checking it. And how do you reconcile the fact that animal agriculture is a large contributor to ecological destruction and greenhouse gas emissions. Here is the result of a 5 year Oxford Uni study that recommends adopting a more plant-based diet to reduce your personal carb…

I'm sorry, here are some articles that supports me when I say that plant-based diet are not good for your health:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1331544/

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/26493452/

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S00223...

https://academic.oup.com/ajcn/article/90/4/943/4597049

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/15072869/

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/30061399/

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3466124/

I'm not a huge fan of nutrition, so that's why I take too long post these, anyway don't believe me or in any article, test on yourself and tell me.

Plant-based diet might be good for environment, but for sure are not good for your health.

Re: What Will Happen in the 2020s

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Post by gordon_freeman »

ValentineC wrote: post #145
throwaway5752 wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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If you buy a lot from Amazon, you can also choose Internet Archive as your supported charity. (I was also going to suggest nominating Internet Archive as a charity for Humble Bundle purchases as well, but it seems like they no longer support choosing your own charities.)

This is a good idea. On AmazonSmile I currently support National Park Foundation but can think of supporting this one too in the future (maybe rotating basis quarterly). I am curious which other similar nonprofits HNers think are available on AmazonSmile to think of donating to?

Re: What Will Happen in the 2020s

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Post by cletus »

So, I have a problem with a large number of these points. Each point alone requires a long rebuttal that no one would read. I think Fred is way off here. The bullet points:

1. There will be no global change in human behaviour and activity that is against the short term interests of those people. Period. The way to replace fossil fuels with renewables is by them being a cheaper source of power. We're well on the way here for solar.

2. Until someone can devise a safe way to processor nuclear fuel, transport the fuel and waste and process and store the nuclear waste nuclear power is just not making any kind of resurgence. It just isn't. Believing otherwise is a pipe dream that ignores the significant externalities of nuclear power (as in the waste products from the reactor and refinement processes).

3. Why Fred thinks China won't have the same short term self-interest that every other country does seems fanciful at best.

4. Crypto currency doesn't solve any problems that most people care about. Bitcoin surged in value for two reasons:

- So wealthy Chinese people could escape their country's capital controls and move their wealth out of China. Mine Bitcoin in China, sell overseas for USD, profit.

- For illegal activity.

Traditional currencies have reversible transactions (which most people actually want) and aren't subject to 51% attacks. Nor do they require technical proficiency to safely use.

5. Decentralized Internet is a pipe dream.

6. Plant-based diets by the end of the decade? Not a chance.

I look forward to having a chuckle at this list in 2030.

Re: What Will Happen in the 2020s

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Post by [deleted] »

andrewem wrote: post #286
Spooky23 wrote: post #230

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The GPS thing is a no-brainer, as we need it to replace fuel excise taxes. As for the rest, no way. The GOP has pivoted to being the rural party, and rural folks can not afford drone cars and will be paralyzed without them.

I recall a discussion of this point on HN a long time ago, but GPS is only one way to charge taxes based on vehicle miles traveled (VMT) - another, which is less invasive, is just to read the vehicle's odometer on some regular basis, either by hand when doing an annual vehicle safety inspection, or automatically by having the vehicle transmit the data. Certainly those have risks of tampering, but so does GPS.

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Re: What Will Happen in the 2020s

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Post by spodek »

Climate left out many other environmental issues: pollution, plastic, extinctions, etc

Most of all Overpopulation.

People fear discussing it now because they only know of China's policy and eugenics. I predict that the successful, non-coercive policies of Thailand, Iran, Mexico, etc that increased peace, prosperity, and stability will become better known.

Those models will lead us to realize that we can peacefully and stably lower birth rate to increase peace and prosperity, easing all other environmental problems. We'll realize steady-state following de-growth works more successfully on a full finite planet than pushing economic and population growth forever.

Re: What Will Happen in the 2020s

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Post by chukye »

uxcolumbo wrote: post #285
chukye wrote: post #31

6 is a big NO. The most part of diseases of this decade are caused by plant based diets. Humans need meat, without it we get sick. B12 can't be found in plants, there are plenty studies that shows how sick we get if we eat ONLY plants.

RE: The most part of diseases of this decade are caused by plant based diets Do you have any studies that back up your claim that humans need meat to live a healthy life? Several governmental bodies worldwide state[1] that one can live healthy using a plant based diet and The Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine[0] even recommend a plant based diet for good health and disease prevention. Did you know B12 is…

btw, please don't do like these guys https://metro.co.uk/2019/11/14/vegan-parents-starved-toddler... feed your babies with meat, we don't have technology (yet) to eat only plants.

Re: What Will Happen in the 2020s

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Post by beloch »

opportune wrote: post #236

I don’t really buy into 4-6. I don’t see any benefit for a country to turn its currency into a crypto asset. Either they are relinquishing a great deal of control in democratizing their financial system (also exposing themselves to attack), or it’s a crypto in name only that doesn’t seem any better than digital cash through banks except for a buzzword. Decentralization is hit or miss. You get economies of scale with…

Canada's mint already created a crypto-currency.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MintChip

It didn't exactly explode in popularity, and has since been sold to a private corp.

China won't be the first country to issue a crypto-currency because it's already been done by other countries. If China does issue one, people likely won't trust it and will avoid it like the plague. China's only real advantage here it is to leverage their authoritarian state to force their own citizens to use a state-approved crypto-currency and hope it catches on elsewhere as a result.

As for China becoming the world's sole super-power in the next decade... I am skeptical. Given China's demographics (i.e. greying), current political problems (e.g. Hong Kong), exodus of manufacturing (e.g. Samsung), and increasing resistance to their influence from other states, I would predict China's global power is near its peak and will soon begin declining, likely being substantially lower at the end of the decade than it is now.

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