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Re: Reiser5

#31

Post by haymakel »

ilammy wrote: post #11
kick wrote: post #2

The tech is still incredibly impressive, I just wish they'd rename it.

Why? That’s just a name. If people are that reluctant to use a technology just because a murderer used to develop some parts of it, what would they think of current developers who renamed the project just to conceal that historical fact? Wouldn’t they initiate a grand purge once they learn that somethingelsefs is actually a project that uses code and ideas of reiserfs?

You can try rationalizing, but the name immediately raises very unfavorable emotions and associations.

The very first thing I thought about when I saw the headline was Hans Reiser's crime. The first thing I then expected in the comments was a lengthy discussion about that. I am fairly certain that this is fully in line with how most people react.

I don't see how your proposed hypothetical following a name change would take hold. I don't think a name change would be perceived as "concealing", just understandably moving away from a name that has become unfortunate. I think people are more surprised that they haven't.

Re: Reiser5

#32

Post by gnarbarian »

vkaku wrote: post #21

If you guys called it something else (even ShishkinFS) you may get more takers. It's thorny that they decided to keep the name, and not everyone is comfortable visualizing the various things that happened with Hans Reiser. Just rename it already, please!

I'm partial to killerFS.

Re: Reiser5

#33

Post by Pxtl »

smitty1e wrote: post #28
vkaku wrote: post #21

If you guys called it something else (even ShishkinFS) you may get more takers. It's thorny that they decided to keep the name, and not everyone is comfortable visualizing the various things that happened with Hans Reiser. Just rename it already, please!

RakudoFS

I see what you did there

Re: Reiser5

#34

Post by bedros »

I think it would be better to drop name and I suggest naming it

FiberFS

Also, it would be helpful to have a comparison table with ZFS BTRFS and other others from technical implementation and features

Re: Reiser5

#35

Post by [deleted] »

throwlaplace wrote: post #13
ilammy wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why? That’s just a name. If people are that reluctant to use a technology just because a murderer used to develop some parts of it, what would they think of current developers who renamed the project just to conceal that historical fact? Wouldn’t they initiate a grand purge once they learn that somethingelsefs is actually a project that uses code and ideas of reiserfs?

>Why? That’s just a name. is it really that difficult to attempt empathy? imagine being one of his kids, growing up to become a developer, and then having to work on code that intersects with reiserfs.

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Re: Reiser5

#36

Post by serf »

jacquesm wrote: post #30

Reiser is the only filesystem on Linux that I ever lost data to. And they really should drop the name, that's not just a wish but a must, keeping it is completely tone-deaf. I was all for giving Reiser the benefit of the doubt as long as he wasn't convicted but it looked bad from the start and the way he lied about it means that that name can not today or forever be associated with something that requires trust in an…

it's sort of self-fulfilling-prophecy to talk about how bad the name tarnishes the project, while simultaneously explaining to everybody your opinion about why the name is bad.

anecdote : I asked a young developer near me 'Hey, do you know the Hans Reiser story?'. The reply was 'Who?'. The reply came from someone familiar with the filesystem, and that general line of work.

tl;dr : Reiser is just a name. It was recently the name of a 'bad guy', but it hasn't always been, and won't always be.

p.s. I've lost data with ReiserFS too. I'm glad I don't have any need for it any longer.

Re: Reiser5

#37

Post by gjs278 »

jacquesm wrote: post #30

Reiser is the only filesystem on Linux that I ever lost data to. And they really should drop the name, that's not just a wish but a must, keeping it is completely tone-deaf. I was all for giving Reiser the benefit of the doubt as long as he wasn't convicted but it looked bad from the start and the way he lied about it means that that name can not today or forever be associated with something that requires trust in an…

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Re: Reiser5

#38

Post by Gibbon1 »

mike_hock wrote: post #4
kick wrote: post #2

The tech is still incredibly impressive, I just wish they'd rename it.

Right? Imagine running a company under the name Hitler Inc. after the end of world war 2. The name just needlessly taints the project which is (obviously) not run by the convicted murderer anymore.

Imagine running for the EU Parliament with the last name Mussolini.

Re: Reiser5

#39

Post by empressplay »

vkaku wrote: post #21

If you guys called it something else (even ShishkinFS) you may get more takers. It's thorny that they decided to keep the name, and not everyone is comfortable visualizing the various things that happened with Hans Reiser. Just rename it already, please!

redrumFS!

Re: Reiser5

#40

Post by kragen »

vkaku wrote: post #21

If you guys called it something else (even ShishkinFS) you may get more takers. It's thorny that they decided to keep the name, and not everyone is comfortable visualizing the various things that happened with Hans Reiser. Just rename it already, please!

I usually call it murdererfs, for example in Dercuano. I've had comments on here downvoted for it.
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