> a years-old prohibition on the IRS creating its own online filing system has been scrapped What kind of insanity leads to this? The government is prohibited from creating software that helps its citizens? There's a lot wrong with Brazil but here I just download the government-provided software (that runs on Windows/Linux/Mac) and fill my taxes in 10-15 minutes. Every year they release a new version that is easier t…
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#162The both parties argument is so stale at this point. While the Dems might not be perfect, they aren't actively sabotaging our democracy. The Republicans just passed a huge tax bill and what did it do? Oh, huge handouts to the wealthy. Nice!
Sabotaging democracy? You mean like attempting to overturn a presidential election?
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#163Earlier quoted context omitted.
The problem generally comes down to the fact that no Republican is for improving tax filing. So all it takes is for a handful of Democrats to be lobbied to oppose it and even a Democratic majority can't push changes through.
> The problem generally comes down to the fact that no Republican is for improving tax filing. And that’s a lie: https://www.tedcruz.org/postcard/ Paul Ryan also proposed something similar. However, Democrats opposed it. Basically if it’s simpler and cheaper taxes, Democrats cry foul. Auto filled forms with the current tax system is just lipstick on a pig.
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#164In the US, we've had decades of (largely GOP) messaging that the government can't do anything properly. A substantial portion of the population believes it. As noted in a sibling comment, the IRS could pre-fill forms that would be correct for the vast majority of tax payers (who take the standard deduction/don't itemize, have a single job, and no other edge cases). These people should not be paying TurboTax either wa…
I would love to hear about things the government has done exceptionally better than private companies. Please go on.
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#165Re: IRS Reforms Free File Program, Drops Agreement Not to Compete with TurboTax
#166In the US, we've had decades of (largely GOP) messaging that the government can't do anything properly. A substantial portion of the population believes it. As noted in a sibling comment, the IRS could pre-fill forms that would be correct for the vast majority of tax payers (who take the standard deduction/don't itemize, have a single job, and no other edge cases). These people should not be paying TurboTax either wa…
> messaging that the government can't do anything properly I would love to hear about things the government has done exceptionally better than private companies. Please go on.
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#167Earlier quoted context omitted.
You don't go to jail for filing a wrong number accidentally. Only if you are intentionally lying/hiding income. I know people who didn't pay tax FOR THEIR BUSINESS for several years and they settled the debt for much less than they owed and definitely did not go to jail. This is just misinformation.
It's called hyperbole.
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#168In the US, we've had decades of (largely GOP) messaging that the government can't do anything properly. A substantial portion of the population believes it. As noted in a sibling comment, the IRS could pre-fill forms that would be correct for the vast majority of tax payers (who take the standard deduction/don't itemize, have a single job, and no other edge cases). These people should not be paying TurboTax either wa…
It's pretty disgusting. Summed up in one of my favorite tweets, which went something like > Gov: you owe us money. It's called taxes > Ctzn: oh ok, how much do I owe you? > Gov: you have to figure it out > Ctzn: oh well, then I owe you 0 > Gov: no, no, we know how much you owe, you have to figure it out, and by the way if you get it wrong you go to jail
The effort to reduce the complexity of the 1040 into 6 new schedules was a great way to factor out those with complicated situations such that the majority of tax payers are oblivious to those nuances. The crux of the matter is that legislators passed into law all these onerous mass of rules to turn various levers to entice and discourage certain things and bite those with progressive tax rates. It is precisely the existence of these rules as to why the government doesn't know what tax valley you land in that huge parameter space. It will not presume to know your specific circumstances but assume that you being aware of your own money and circumstances are in the best position to know these things. At the least one thing I learned is that with tax laws if you have no idea what a thing is it probably in not applicable to you.
Needless to say all of this would be much more simple if we just pay a flat tax on all income for all people. Nothing simpler than that.
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#169I just want to move to a system where the IRS sends me a bill, they know how much I owe them.
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#170In the US, we've had decades of (largely GOP) messaging that the government can't do anything properly. A substantial portion of the population believes it. As noted in a sibling comment, the IRS could pre-fill forms that would be correct for the vast majority of tax payers (who take the standard deduction/don't itemize, have a single job, and no other edge cases). These people should not be paying TurboTax either wa…
> messaging that the government can't do anything properly I would love to hear about things the government has done exceptionally better than private companies. Please go on.
Roads might be the canonical example but I'm not familiar with any examples of privatized roads.