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Re: Thousands of Google’s cafeteria workers have unionized

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Interesting account. Created 15 days ago, negative rep, and every comments are on the same nature: https://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=greatscott404

Am I committing thought crimes?

In the West we tend to believe in free association and the right of people to perform political activity without being beaten up by the police, at least most of the time.

Re: Thousands of Google’s cafeteria workers have unionized

#52
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Cool cool. We can have our government stop recognizing the existence of corporations at the same time we outlaw unions. Deal?

Why? Corporations are largely great assets to a country, labor unions on the other hand are parasitic cartels.

Well the high labor-rate negotiating power, relative to individuals, of corporations—legal entities created by our government(s)—is why we need unions, so I figure if we ditch one we can/should ditch the other, too.

Re: Thousands of Google’s cafeteria workers have unionized

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post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Am I committing thought crimes?

In the West we tend to believe in free association and the right of people to perform political activity without being beaten up by the police, at least most of the time.

> In the West we tend to believe in free association and the right of people to perform political activity

LOL

Re: Thousands of Google’s cafeteria workers have unionized

#54

The only reason labor unions are legal is that certain unions have outsized political clout, in a perfect world labor unions would be illegal under antitrust laws as forcing companies to pay workers more than what a free market dictates inevitably increases prices.

Interesting account. Created 15 days ago, negative rep, and every comments are on the same nature: https://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=greatscott404

I don't agree with what greatscott404 says, but I will defend to the karma-death their right to say it without getting grey'd out.

Re: Thousands of Google’s cafeteria workers have unionized

#55

The only reason labor unions are legal is that certain unions have outsized political clout, in a perfect world labor unions would be illegal under antitrust laws as forcing companies to pay workers more than what a free market dictates inevitably increases prices.

Interesting account. Created 15 days ago, negative rep, and every comments are on the same nature: https://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=greatscott404

yours is created 71 days ago.

is this the path we want to take?

Re: Thousands of Google’s cafeteria workers have unionized

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In a perfect world labor unions would be illegal is not a market-based opposition.

> In a perfect world labor unions would be illegal is not a market-based opposition. Why not? It's perfectly reasonable to say in a perfect world, X would be illegal if you think that X is harmful enough for the state to act. I bet there are things you wish the state would ban. You don't have to agree with the OP, but he's not expressing anything wacky or bizarre. He just doesn't see unionization as some kind of unqu…

Well, you are allowed to think those thoughts. You're allowed to post them. He has in fact done so. No consequenses will come back to him for this.

It's just that we're not obliged to listen, and we're also free to express our opinion with the downvote button.

Re: Thousands of Google’s cafeteria workers have unionized

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Interesting account. Created 15 days ago, negative rep, and every comments are on the same nature: https://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=greatscott404

Am I committing thought crimes?

Well, no of course not. But it does seem likely that you're a shill or a sock-puppet.

Re: Thousands of Google’s cafeteria workers have unionized

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post #25

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Your assumption of "free markets" is a mythical one.

Regardless, labor unions would be a feature of any conceptualization of free markets I’ve ever heard of. In what sense is cooperation and organization not compatible with a free market?

If an employer could negotiate with unions competing for a contract, the outcome might be a market-clearing price for labor. Enforce a monopoly for a single union, and the only possible responses are capitulate or leave, with outcomes that look like Detroit.

Re: Thousands of Google’s cafeteria workers have unionized

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Good for them. As for the tech workers, they need something like a guild with membership fees and staff lawyers that would sue the state for allowing binding arbitration and non compete agreements (i.e. do what California did).

they need something like a guild with membership fees and staff lawyers that would sue the state for allowing binding arbitration and non compete agreements Serious question: How is this kind of a guild different from a union in your view?

Apparently guilds are for independent contractors and unions are for employees. A developer guild would be for freelance devs and the like
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