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Huawei’s Revenue Hits Record $122B in 2019 Despite U.S. Campaign

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Re: Huawei’s Revenue Hits Record $122B in 2019 Despite U.S. Campaign

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Post by nine_zeros »

atlasunshrugged wrote: post #17
KorematsuFred wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I live in India and not a big fan of China but I purchased a Huawei phone recently. I think Huwei benefited from the publicity they got through US campaign against them.

I was wondering whether it would be a benefit for them to be knocked by the American govt in some places. I guessed for sure in the ME but I'm a bit surprised about India, I would have figured they would be more on the US side. Or is it that they just benefited from increased name recognition rather than name recognition tied to being harried by the US

Indian people don't give any fs about politics. All they want is best value for price.

At the moment, American bullying is not providing that.

Re: Huawei’s Revenue Hits Record $122B in 2019 Despite U.S. Campaign

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Post by Iwan-Zotow »

ktln2 wrote: post #29

Huawei is (essentially) a state-owned company - I don't think they are calculating revenue using external auditor and comply with GAAP. It is not comparable with any publicly traded companies.

1. They use external auditor - KPMG. "KPMG has been Huawei's independent auditor since 2000".

2. "and comply with GAAP" - they don't. Accounting in China is IFRS based, as far as I know.

Re: Huawei’s Revenue Hits Record $122B in 2019 Despite U.S. Campaign

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Post by roenxi »

atr_gz wrote: post #40
roenxi wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> because of the absurd nationalistic view that the Chinese hold Nothing absurd about it. The US government is trying to coerce the Chinese government. Great time for them to feel nationalistic. > I tried to understand why, so I threw many arguments at them such as Huawei was actually caught sending data back to 3rd party servers in China and I even tried explaining maybe the sanction is on them because they broke th…

Isn’t the core of the issue more that Huawei defrauded some US banks by promising not to use their money to do business with Iran, then went ahead and did it anyways, leading to the banks in question being fined by the US? Your characterization seems a bit misleading.

That is what the US wants the core of the issue to be. The actual core of the issue isn't automatically set because the US has a preference. It seems completely reasonable that the Chinese would see a different core issue related to the US throwing their weight around.

This isn't a case that is being put through the Chinese court system. That suggests that the Chinese government doesn't see a problem with Huawei's actions. The US banks getting to have a legal say beyond that is a very questionable position given that they presumably knew who they were lending money to. The fact that under US law nothing is out of the ordinary is cool and all, but Meng Whanzhou isn't meant to be subject to US law. She's a Chinese businesswoman running a Chinese business from China.

Call me crazy, but she should be subject to Chinese law. And I can easily see why Chinese people might think that.

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Post by BubRoss »

KaoruAoiShiho wrote: post #24
wyxuan wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just wondering, what country is this?

Only country that fits the description of Chinese dominated but not Chinese is Singapore.

Singapore is not chinese dominated. It is 70% people of ethnically chinese decent.

Re: Huawei’s Revenue Hits Record $122B in 2019 Despite U.S. Campaign

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Post by ksec »

Iwan-Zotow wrote: post #38
KaoruAoiShiho wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Only country that fits the description of Chinese dominated but not Chinese is Singapore.

Taiwan

I doubt it is Taiwan, the only country I could think of that fits the description is Malaysia.

Re: Huawei’s Revenue Hits Record $122B in 2019 Despite U.S. Campaign

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Post by ksec »

BubRoss wrote: post #44
KaoruAoiShiho wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Only country that fits the description of Chinese dominated but not Chinese is Singapore.

Singapore is not chinese dominated. It is 70% people of ethnically chinese decent.

>It is 70% people of ethnically chinese decent

That is the problem, the Chinese view is that ethnic Chinese is Chinese. The word Chinese has double meaning and get muddle up a lot. Unfortunately there doesn't seems to be another accepted English word for ethnic Chinese.

Re: Huawei’s Revenue Hits Record $122B in 2019 Despite U.S. Campaign

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Post by trhway »

atlasunshrugged wrote: post #17
KorematsuFred wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I live in India and not a big fan of China but I purchased a Huawei phone recently. I think Huwei benefited from the publicity they got through US campaign against them.

I was wondering whether it would be a benefit for them to be knocked by the American govt in some places. I guessed for sure in the ME but I'm a bit surprised about India, I would have figured they would be more on the US side. Or is it that they just benefited from increased name recognition rather than name recognition tied to being harried by the US

>but I'm a bit surprised about India, I would have figured they would be more on the US side.

giving US support of Pakistan? :) While China, despite potentially having points of contention with India, seems to have at least for now decided to not angry up the Indian tiger.

Re: Huawei’s Revenue Hits Record $122B in 2019 Despite U.S. Campaign

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Post by throwaway1997 »

Iwan-Zotow wrote: post #38
KaoruAoiShiho wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Only country that fits the description of Chinese dominated but not Chinese is Singapore.

Taiwan

Taiwan promotes nationalism of its own nation, although it's nowhere near as hardline as the mainland.

Re: Huawei’s Revenue Hits Record $122B in 2019 Despite U.S. Campaign

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Post by throwaway1997 »

Iwan-Zotow wrote: post #36
neya wrote: post #6

I live in a Chinese dominated country. I can tell you this is because of the absurd nationalistic view that the Chinese hold. For example, I know atleast 5 co-workers who sold their iPhones to get a Huawei when the sanction was made. Part of the reason was Huawei phones' prices (even new ones) drastically dropped when the announcement of no more Android support was made, so these guys (and girls) got it at a super go…

FTFY Americans could be patriotic (GOOD!) Chinese could only be nationalistic (BAD!)

Americans can safely criticise and scrutinise their own government in most cases.
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